Re: [ga] domain tasting comments

[<chris@xxxxxx>]

No possible way to do eliminate domain name speculation where the registrant 
pays for the domain name, nor do I believe they should eliminate it.

1. How would you propose eliminating it?

2. Would you say anyone who has not built a website on the domain in a 
specific period of time is speculating?

3. What if I register a domain name that I plan to use in the year 2040 and 
believe it is worth keeping and paying for until then?

4. If I register a domain name, I may very well plan to use it, but then 
never get around to building it and let it drop later. That is also 
speculating wouldn't you say?

5. If you did put a rule that they had to build a website on the domain 
name, what exactly would satisfy your definition of website?

6. I advise clients to also register the dot org and net of their domain 
names. We are "speculating" that a competitor may want to register them and 
do not want them to. Would this also be eliminated?

I see no problem with anyone who registers a domain name and pays for the 
registration. It's not my business, nor ICANN's business what they do with 
the domain or if they ever build a website or not.

Chris McElroy, NameCritic, Inc.
http://www.wholettheblogout.com


----- Original Message ----- 
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Cc: "GA" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>; 
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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] domain tasting comments


> Dominik and all,
>
>  Frankly eliminating Domain Name speculation would go far
> in addressing Tasting, Domain Name Warehousing, and Front
> Running and I believe that Domain Name speculation should
> be banned all together.  But eliminating Domain Name speculation
> will not in and of itself, eliminate Tasting nor Front Running.
>
> Dominik Filipp wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> >
> > See my lines below
> >
> > > Of course it is. Yet again changing or amending
> > > the RAA's regarding the AGP is not going to necessarly
> > > accomplish killing Tasting.
> >
> > The AGP elimination will definitely eliminate tasting. It does not
> > eliminate other forms of speculation however.
> >
> > > Better would be to monitor
> > > deletes and if they rise above a certain level of a
> > > considered norm, revoke or suspend that
> > > registrars/registries Accreditation. If such levels
> > > are reached or exceeded more than three times in any
> > > given 6 month period, revoke that registrars and/or
> > > registries Accreditation perminantly and temporarly
> > > reassign those functions to whatever existing
> > > registrar/registry or other qualified entity that is
> > > interested in managing same properly and ethically.
> > > OR, require and verify modifications to the registration
> > > software that prevents Tasting as I have already suggested.
> >
> > Disagree. None human oversight based on plethora of unclear bylaws
> > vulnerable to being neglected or abused can replace inherent systemic
> > element principally avoiding fraudulent activity. If such exists, of
> > course. Fortunately, domain tasting is the case.
> > The oversight should be necessary if there is no other way to ensure it
> > in such fundamental way. Unfortunately, as in most situations in real
> > life.
> >
> > Dominik
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >    Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
> > often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability
> > depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
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>
> Regards,
>
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>   Abraham Lincoln
>
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
> div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
> jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> My Phone: 214-244-4827