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Re: [gnso-arr-dt] Review Team Nominee Selection Process
- To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-arr-dt] Review Team Nominee Selection Process
- From: William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:15:24 +0100
Chuck, whatever are you talking about? The volunteer deadline is 17 Feb, the
Selectors will pick on 20 Feb. So we have a whole day for the SGs to review
the applicants and decide which to propose to the houses, for the houses to
horse trade and agree which to propose to the council, and for the council to
finalize the nominees and forward for the Selectors' careful review on the
19th/20th!
Makes total sense.
Bill
On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> Thanks Marika.
>
> I repeat my concern that this process is totally backwards. Are we expected
> to endorse candidates before the candidate volunteer deadline (17 Feb)? I
> think that would be impossible. As it looks now, I think the best we can do
> is approve a plan to endorse candidates on 18 Feb. If they are simply
> looking for the GNSO to confirm that a volunteer is from the GNSO, that would
> be rediculous.
>
> What does "endorse" mean?
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> When will the SOs and ACs be contacted regarding volunteers?
>
> Chuck
>
> From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:55 AM
> To: Rosette, Kristina; Gomes, Chuck; Caroline Greer; William Drake;
> gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Marco Lorenzoni
> Subject: Re: [gnso-arr-dt] Review Team Nominee Selection Process
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please find below some feedback to your questions from Marco Lorenzoni.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Marika
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>
> 1) We did not publish the call beyond our website, so as to leave free
> SO/ACs to do their outreach
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> 2) We published the call immediately because of very tight time
> constraints; unfortunately there is no way to extend the deadline for
> applications as the two Selectors will select candidates the 20th February
>
> 3) When receiving candidatures making reference to a supporting SO/AC, we
> check with that SO/AC if this is true
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> 4) When receiving candidatures not making reference to a supporting
> SO/AC, we ask applicant to disclose the identity of his/her SO/AC, then we
> check with that SO/AC
>
> Thanks !!
> Marco
>
>
> Marco Lorenzoni
> ---------------------
> ICANN
> Director, Organizational Review
> marco.lorenzoni@xxxxxxxxx
>
> On 01/02/10 16:34, "Rosette, Kristina" <krosette@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Does anyone know (or can we find out) if ICANN has publicized the call for
> volunteers beyond the website and newsletter? May affect outreach.
>
> Will be offline (as far as ICANN mailing lists) until this evening. Will
> catch up then.
>
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> From: owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:28 AM
> To: Caroline Greer; William Drake; gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Review Team Nominee Selection Process
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> I think you are right Caroline, but I believe they will still have to be
> endorsed by an SO or AC. I really think that Staff made a mistake by
> putting out the request for volunteers before the SOs and ACs had processes
> in place. I understand the time constraints but I think they could still
> have been met by delaying their request a little; and maybe that can still
> happen with an extension of their deadline.
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> Chuck
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> From: Caroline Greer [mailto:cgreer@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:17 AM
> To: Gomes, Chuck; William Drake; gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Review Team Nominee Selection Process
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> I just wondered if some people would randomly apply in response to the call
> from ICANN since there was an email address provided, even though that it
> not the process that ought to be followed.
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> Caroline.
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> From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 01 February 2010 13:50
> To: Caroline Greer; William Drake; gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Review Team Nominee Selection Process
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> I appreciated the fact that the discussion on this has started.
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> Caroline, I am not sure that the following statement is true: "It is also
> likely that some third parties will send in their applications directly to
> ICANN, in which case they will have an opportunity to be considered anyway
> by the Selectors." If volunteers have to be endorsed by SOs and ACs, the
> Selectors may not be able to consider them except possibly as an expert.
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> Chuck
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> From: owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Caroline Greer
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:20 AM
> To: William Drake; gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Review Team Nominee Selection Process
>
> Thanks for kicking this off Bill.
>
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> We have not really discussed this yet within the Registries Stakeholder
> Group, although we have a call on Wednesday after which I hope to be able to
> forward some more definitive views.
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> As to actual individual candidate qualifications, Chuck had started this
> conversation recently with the following thoughts which I think are a good
> baseline:
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> 1. Availability and willingness to commit the time (Question for our group:
> do we immediately eliminate candidates who have other significant leadership
> responsibilities in the community? This could include GNSO leaders and
> perhaps NomCom reps).
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> 2. The criteria listed in the current Call for Applicants.
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> 3. Demonstrated trustworthiness to function neutrally and objectively.
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> I am of the opinion that we should let each SG come up with their own
> internal process to present candidates (using the candidate qualifications
> as a guide) and I am ok with Avri’s suggestion that 3 from each SG be put
> forward. If we do not limit those candidates to the strict confines of each
> SG and clearly state as much – ie, a SG could nominate someone from outside
> of their group – we may not need to worry about candidates who do not fit
> neatly into one category? I am trying to think of an example of someone who
> would not be represented somewhere however. It is also likely that some
> third parties will send in their applications directly to ICANN, in which
> case they will have an opportunity to be considered anyway by the Selectors.
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> We will need some sort of voting mechanism for the Council and I don’t have
> any particular objections to Avri’s suggestion at this time although I want
> to think about it some more. We would also need visibility of the
> applications relating to each candidate beforehand in order to evaluate and
> vote. Alternatively, a representative from each SG could take it upon
> themselves to present an overview of each candidate to the Council.
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> Caroline.
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> From: owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of William Drake
> Sent: 01 February 2010 10:38
> To: gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gnso-arr-dt] Review Team Nominee Selection Process
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> Hello,
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> I don't know about anyone else here, but I asked NCSG members for input a
> few days ago and have received none. Nor have I seen any input from the
> Council list. So I guess we should just get started brainstorming here....
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> We need to define a fair methodology for taking in, evaluating, and deciding
> among applications, e.g.
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> 1. What individual qualifications are required, and how to fairly assess
> council vs non-council candidates
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> 2. What kind of distribution we want to present to the Selectors (we'd
> talked about one from each SG, but there are interested parties who don't
> necessarily fit into any one SG, and other complexities)
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> 3. Who will select nominees from the candidate pool using what method
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> 4. etc
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> Below a suggestion from Avri to maybe help start the conversation.
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> Bill
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> From: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
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> Date: January 29, 2010 8:38:06 PM GMT+01:00
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> To: William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Fwd: [] Input to the Affirmation Reviews Requirements drafting team
> by COB Monday 1 February 2010
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> my recommendation is something like
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> each SG can put forward up to 3 names
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> the names do not need to be SG members but can be
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> and the houses will vote
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> 2 votes per council member (1 vote max for a candidate)
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> (assuming you get 2 seats, number of votes = number of seats)
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> the top 2 from each house will be presented as nominees
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> with a request from the CEO/Chair to pick one from house a) and one from
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> with the rest ranked as alternates or members of the advisory or whatever.
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Date: 29 January 2010 12:56:58 EST
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> To: Council GNSO <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [council] Input to the Affirmation Reviews Requirements drafting
> team by COB Monday 1 February 2010
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> Dear Councillors,
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> Reminder about an action item that arose out of the Council meeting on
> Thursday 28 January 2010 with regard to the Affirmation of Commitments (AoC)
> Review. Please provide early input to the drafting team, via the Council
> mailing list, on any ideas you have on how GNSO volunteers should be
> identified as nominees for each of the four review teams.
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> Action Item:
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> • The Council agreed that the drafting team, under the leadership of Bill
> Drake, should continue working on how GNSO volunteers should be identified
> as nominees for each of the four review teams.
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> • The procedures should be presented to the Council on 10 February, 8 days
> before the Council meeting on 18 February 2010 for approval.
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> • Councillors and stakeholder Groups are requested to provide input to the
> drafting team by COB on Monday, 1 February 2010.
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> Thank you.
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> Kind regards,
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> Glen
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> Glen de Saint Géry
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> GNSO Secretariat
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> gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
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> ***********************************************************
> William J. Drake
> Senior Associate
> Centre for International Governance
> Graduate Institute of International and
> Development Studies
> Geneva, Switzerland
> william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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William J. Drake
Senior Associate
Centre for International Governance
Graduate Institute of International and
Development Studies
Geneva, Switzerland
william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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