Re: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Call details / Call of authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG

[Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Berry,

I did email gnso-secs, but did not cc you. Good to know. Admittedly, I did send 
the request late last night. I will cc you in the event that I need a dial-out 
in the future (but I hope I will not).

Personally, I feel that recordings for the calls (plus or minus transcripts) 
would be beneficial. Ideally, all the members of the sub-team should do their 
best to attend the calls. However, in the event that it is difficult for 
someone to do so for one reason or another, recordings would be helpful so that 
no one falls behind. Not sure how problematic this might be though.

Thanks again.

Amr

PS: Special thanks to Volker. The research and links provided pretty much 
satisfy the question I had on resources to familiarize myself with the topic, 
authoritativeness.

On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Berry Cobb wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>  
> The call today was not setup for recording or for transcript.  If you need 
> these features for future calls, please let us know and we can get it 
> arranged.  I apologize about the dial-out request.  I was not aware of it.  
> Per the instructions below, if a dial-out is required, please email 
> gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx, and CC me on the request so that we are covered.
>  
> Thank you.  B
>  
> Berry Cobb
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
> 720.839.5735
> mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> @berrycobb
>  
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> From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 09:02
> To: 'Amr Elsadr'
> Cc: Authoritative Thick WHOIS; GNSO Secretariats; Berry Cobb 
> (mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> Subject: RE: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Call details / Call of 
> authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
>  
> I don’t believe the call was recorded but I copy Berry who knows the answer 
> for sure. 
>  
> From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 9:53 AM
> To: Metalitz, Steven
> Cc: Authoritative Thick WHOIS; GNSO Secretariats
> Subject: Re: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Call details / Call of 
> authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
>  
> Thanks Steve. Appreciate the update. Do you know if there will be a recording 
> or transcript? Perhaps I could make contributions and maybe ask some 
> questions of my own on this list after going over them 
> (recording/transcripts)?
>  
> Thanks again.
>  
> Amr
>  
> On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Metalitz, Steven wrote:
>  
> 
> Sorry Amr.  We wrapped up the call in about 20 minutes (Volker, Marc and I).  
> Marc will be responding to my questions on the list and we hope we can 
> jump-start some progress that way before deciding when or whether to schedule 
> another call. 
>  
> I am sorry to hear that the dial-out did not happen.  I am not sure who from 
> staff is on this list but I hope one of them can respond on that.  
>  
> Steve
>  
>   
>  
> From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 9:43 AM
> To: Authoritative Thick WHOIS
> Cc: Metalitz, Steven; GNSO Secretariats
> Subject: Re: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Call details / Call of 
> authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
>  
> Hi…, sorry I'm late but I was away from my computer and had asked for a 
> dial-out, which I didn't get. I've dialed in, but am waiting for the 
> "subscriber" to join me to the call.
>  
> Is the call still going on?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Amr
>  
> On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:22 AM, Jill Titzer wrote:
> 
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> 
> My apologies I will be unable to attend tomorrow's call.  I am on vacation.   
> Thank you.  Happy holidays to everyone!
>  
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Call details / Call of
> authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
> From: "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, December 20, 2012 2:58 pm
> To: Authoritative Thick WHOIS <gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: GNSO Secretariats <gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>, "Berry Cobb
> (mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
>  
> Authoritativeness subgroup volunteers,
>  
> In preparation for our subgroup call tomorrow (Friday) at 1500 UTC (see below 
> for dial-in information), here is the relevant excerpt from our working group 
> charter:
> Authoritativeness:  what are the implications of a 'thin' Registry possibly 
> becoming authoritative for registrant Whois data following the transition 
> from a thin-registry model to a thick-registry model. The Working Group 
> should consider the term "authoritative" in both the technical (the 
> repository of the authoritative data) and policy (who has authority over the 
> data) meanings of the word when considering this issue.
>  
> “Authoritativeness” is not mentioned in either the preliminary or final issue 
> report on thick Whois.  This topic was added by the Drafting Team that 
> developed our charter.
>  
> Here are a few questions that might kick off our discussions tomorrow:
>  
> 1.  Are we clear on the “technical” and “policy” definitions of 
> “authoritative” as set out in the charter?
> 2.  Are there other relevant perspectives on “authoritativeness” – for 
> example, the perspective(s) of the Whois data user? 
> 3.  What is the “authoritative” Whois data in a thick Whois setting:
> (a)  for a gTLD registry that is “born thick”?
> (b) after a gTLD registry has migrated from thin to thick (e.g., .org)?
> 4.  What is the impact of any change in authoritativeness after a gTLD 
> registry migrates from thin to thick on:
>                 (a)  the registry?
>                 (b)  registrars?  
>                 (c)  domain name registrants?
>                 (d)  Whois users? 
>        (e)  Others? 
>  
> Your suggestions for other questions (or for modifying these) are welcomed!
>  
> Finally here is the list of our subgroup volunteers as displayed on our 
> subgroup wiki page:
>  
> Members
> Jill Titzer (RrSG)
> Titi Akinsanmi (ALAC)
> Amr Elsadr (NCSG)
> Tim Ruiz (RrSG)
> Jeff Neuman (RySG)
> Steve Metalitz (IPC) - lead
> Marc Anderson (RySG)
> Volker Greimann (RrSG)
> Ray Fassett (RySG)
>  
>  
> Talk to you tomorrow!
>  
> Steve Metalitz
>  
>  
>  
> From: owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gisella 
> Gruber
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:35 AM
> To: Authoritative Thick WHOIS
> Cc: GNSO Secretariats
> Subject: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] Call details / Call of 
> authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
>  
> Dear All,
>  
> The call of Authoritativeness subgroup of Thick Whois WG is scheduled 
> onFriday 21 December 2012 at 1500 UTC:
>  
> 0700 PST, 1000 EST, 1500 UTC
>  
> Conference ID: 7308
>  
> Dial in numbers: 
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> For all other numbers:
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> If you require a dial-out, please email gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx with your 
> preferred number.
>  
> Thank you!
> Kind regards,
> Gisella
>  
> On 17/12/2012 20:13, "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>  
>  
> Thanks Tim.
>  
> It looks like Friday, 12/21 at 10 am EST (1500 UTC) works for at least 
> several folks so please mark that date/time on your calendar for a call of 
> our subgroup.  
>  
> I will not be able to attend tomorrow's full working group call but I assume 
> that some other subgroup members will and if so I hope they will share with 
> us on Friday whatever pearls of wisdom are dispensed then that would help to 
> guide us in the subgroup.
>  
> Steve Metalitz  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: Metalitz, Steven; 'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Doodle poll re call of 
> authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
>  
> Steve,
>  
> Completed the poll with some dates that I "might" be able to make a call, but 
> the likelihood is that family/holiday activities will conflict.
>  
> Best,
> Tim
>  
>  
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Doodle poll re call of 
> authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
> From: "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, December 14, 2012 12:27 pm
> To: "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx>,        
> "'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx'" 
> <gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>
>  
> We got few responses, perhaps because there ended up being so little lead 
> time before the proposed meeting dates/times.
>  
> We have now refreshed the Doodle poll with some options later in next week.  
> Please visit (or revisit) http://www.doodle.com/xg4gav95k36yazv3 ASAP to 
> indicate your availability.  Thanks!
>  
> Steve Metalitz
>  
> From: owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Metalitz, 
> Steven
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:40 AM
> To: 'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] Doodle poll re call of 
> authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
>  
> Subgroup volunteers,
>  
> Sorry, it seems to have taken 48 hours to get the mailing list up and 
> running, but if you can visit the link at : 
> http://www.doodle.com/xg4gav95k36yazv3 today, we can try to get a call 
> scheduled tomorrow or Monday.  Thank you!
>  
> Steve Metalitz.
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