RE: [gnso-ccwg-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles -- "wherever possible"?

["Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I too agree with Mikey. If the chartering organizations cannot agree on
a single charter, then by definition it is not a CWG but operating as
two distinct ones. It may even end up with members that are only
interested in one charter or the other. That makes no sense and will
only confuse and complicate their work. It may be a radical idea, but if
the chartering organizations have different ideas about what the WG
needs to do, then maybe they should just each form their own WG.

Tim

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [gnso-ccwg-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles --
> "wherever possible"?
> From: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thu, December 15, 2011 9:40 am
> To: mike@xxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx, julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> I want to second Mikey's view on the draft and, that he, like me, is an
> old geezer.
> 
> Berard
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [gnso-ccwg-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles --
> > "wherever possible"?
> > From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Wed, December 14, 2011 5:32 am
> > To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> > 
> > thanks Julie,
> > 
> > i really want to continue the discussion about 2.a,ii where we leave the 
> > [wherever possible] clause in. Â here's the sentence, just to make the 
> > thread easier to follow;
> > 
> > All participating SOs/ACs should approve a single, joint Charter [whenever 
> > possible] that defines the rules and procedures for the CWG.
> > 
> > 
> > as your customer, i want to understand the circumstances where a working 
> > group would be handed *more than one* charter to operate under. Â that 
> > seems really weird to me. Â i'd also really like to understand how we think 
> > the working group is going to operate if it has more than one charter. Â    
> >     
> > 
> >     -Â alternating charters by week? Â 
> > 
> >     -Â half the working group works under one, the other half under the 
> > other? Â 
> > 
> >     - hand the unresolved dispute to the co-chairs and let *them* resolve 
> > it?
> > 
> > as an old geezer, it's always fun to see new things but i have to admit 
> > that i've never heard of a plane going to two destinations at the same time 
> > -- or leaving the destination-dispute up to the pilots to decide after the 
> > plane has taken off. Â i think the airline's customers would get 
> > restive� 
> > 
> > mikey
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Julie Hedlund wrote:
> > 
> > FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles
> > 
> > 
> > All,
> > 
> > Attached in Word and PDF are the revised Draft Principles based on the 
> > changes agreed to on today�s call.  Note that the redline reflects new 
> > additions on the call. Â Redlining was removed where edits from the list 
> > and the meeting on 22 November have been accepted. Â This also is posted to 
> > the wiki at: 
> > Â https://community.icann.org/display/gnsoccwgdraftteam/5.+Background+Documents.
> >  Â Â 
> > 
> > Note: As discussed the rationale section is included, but it was agreed 
> > that it would not be included in the version sent to the Council. 
> > Â However, further edits to the rationale text are encouraged as these may 
> > be useful to provide during Council discussions.
> > 
> > Our next call is scheduled for Tuesday, 20 December at UTC/1200 PST/1500 
> > EST/2000 London/2100 CET. Â A reminder will be send prior to the call. 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Julie
> > 
> > Attendees: Â Jonathan Robinson (Chair), Chuck Gomes, Alan Greenberg, Mikey 
> > O�Conner, Wendy Seltzer, Jaime Wagner; Staff: Julie Hedlund, Liz Gasster, 
> > and Nathalie Peregrine
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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