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RE: RES: [gnso-ccwg-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles -- "wherever possible"?
- To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf" <jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: RES: [gnso-ccwg-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles -- "wherever possible"?
- From: <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:10:21 -0700
<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000;
font-size:10pt;"><div>It strikes me that with one charter we have a
cross-comunity working group, but with multiple charters we likely have a
cross-purposes working group. One is the better
choice.</div><div><br></div><div>Berard<br></div>
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Subject: RE: RES: [gnso-ccwg-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles<br>
-- "wherever possible"?<br>
From: "Gomes, Chuck" <<a
href="mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Date: Sun, December 18, 2011 8:54 am<br>
To: "Mike O'Connor" <<a
href="mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx";>mike@xxxxxxxxxx</a>>, Jaime Wagner -
PowerSelf<br>
<<a href="mailto:jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Cc: "'Julie Hedlund'" <<a
href="mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx";>julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx</a>>,
<br>
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style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Let
me weigh in on this discussion, especially because I likely will not be able
to participate in this weeks call.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">First
of all, I am comfortable with whatever a majority of the DT decides, with
‘[whenever possible]’ or without it but if we leave it I definitely recommend
that the brackets be used. Because the Council will have to deliberate on
our recommendations further, there will be additional opportunity to deal with
this with more minds involved, so it is not essential that we reach final
resolution now.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At
the same time, I lean toward the goal of having one charter. If there
are elements in the charter where the various SOs and ACs cannot agree, those
can be dealt with accordingly. Here are some possible ways that could
happen: 1) let each SO and/or AC make independent recommendations on those
elements, separate from the CWG work; 2) ask each SO and/or AC to make
independent recommendations to the CWG with the expectation that the CWG would
incorporate them into the CWG final report; 3) recognize that there may not be
community consensus on those elements. I am sure there are many other
ways that such a situation could be resolved.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:owner-gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx";>owner-gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx</a>
[<a
href="mailto:owner-gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike O'Connor<br> <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 17, 2011
1:03 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf<br> <b>Cc:</b> 'Julie Hedlund';
<a href="mailto:gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: RES: [gnso-ccwg-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles --
"wherever possible"?<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">ah… <o:p></o:p></div> <div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div>
<div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">i think i understand that
situation. let's say that the Mikey Faction and the Jaime Faction
disagree over an aspect of the charter -- and, because we're evenly matched we
bring the discussion to a no-consensus destination (a perfectly valid outcome
in consensus decision making btw). <o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">i offer these
situations;<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <blockquote
style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0in"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">-- we're deadlocked over whether the work should be
done at all<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">-- we're deadlocked over a major
component of the work<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">-- we're deadlocked over a minor
component<o:p></o:p></div> </div> </blockquote> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">i think our options could
include:<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <blockquote
style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0in"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">-- not forming the CC working group at
all<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">-- forming a CC working group that
excludes the faction that does not agree <o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div>
<div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">-- forming two CC working
groups with different charters<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">-- forming a CC working group
with one or more *minor* charter issues that have to be resolved by the working
group<o:p></o:p></div> </div> </blockquote> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">but in all cases i'd really like to
see each working group only have one charter -- it's like service-providers
having only one statement-of-work or arrangement letter.
<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">how does that work for
you?<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">thanks for that really thoughtful
comment,<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">mikey<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div>
<div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
<div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">On Dec 16,
2011, at 3:18 PM, Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf wrote:<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></div> <div>
<div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mike,</span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
agree with your considerations in general and I also agree that they reflect
the ideal requirements.</span><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nevertheless,
I keep my two concerns to open a window with the “whenever
possible”:</span><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div style="margin-left:.5in">
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One
is a practical consideration: leave room for reality since it already
happened.</span><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div
style="margin-left:.5in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
didn’t participate in the JAS CWG and I am not aware of the minutiae of the
process and the reasons behind the need for two charters.</span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div style="margin-left:.5in">
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
wonder (and this is not as a figure of speech, but a request for information)
if the group would be formed or would continue its work if we already had a
requirement for a unique consensus charter among all SOs and ACs involved. What
would be better: a) the group follow its work with two charters and all the
burdens and “quid pro quos” that happened; or b) halt until a common charter
would be discussed. Would the time constraints be met? Has something of value
emerged from the work as it has been done? Or the harms and frictions
superseded the benefits?</span><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div style="margin-left:.5in">
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
other is a matter of principle: can we impose a consensus over goals to
something that can work as a mechanism to foster understanding when there is no
consensus among the parties?</span><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span
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<div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial"> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="PT-BR">De:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="PT-BR"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="PT-BR"><a target="_blank"
href="mailto:owner-gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx";>owner-gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx</a><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a target="_blank"
href="mailto:[mailto:owner-gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx]";>[mailto:owner-gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx]</a><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Em nome de<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mike O'Connor<br> <b>Enviada
em:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>quarta-feira, 14 de
dezembro de 2011 11:33<br> <b>Para:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Julie Hedlund<br> <b>Cc:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a target="_blank"
href="mailto:gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-ccwg-dt@xxxxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Assunto:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-ccwg-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft Principles -- "wherever
possible"?</span><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div>
</div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
lang="PT-BR"> <o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">thanks Julie,<span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"> <span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div> </div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">i
really want to continue the discussion about 2.a,ii where we leave the
[wherever possible] clause in. here's the sentence, just to make the
thread easier to follow;<span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div>
</div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <blockquote
style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">All participating
SOs/ACs should approve a single, joint Charter [whenever possible] that defines
the rules and procedures for the CWG.<span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div> <div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">as your customer, i want to
understand the circumstances where a working group would be handed *more than
one* charter to operate under. that seems really weird to me. i'd
also really like to understand how we think the working group is going to
operate if it has more than one charter. <span
class="apple-tab-span"> </span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
class="apple-tab-span"> </span><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>- alternating charters by
week? <span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div>
<div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
class="apple-tab-span"> </span><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>- half the working group works
under one, the other half under the other? <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span
class="apple-tab-span"> </span><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>- hand the unresolved dispute to
the co-chairs and let *them* resolve it?<span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">as an old geezer, it's always fun to
see new things but i have to admit that i've never heard of a plane going to
two destinations at the same time -- or leaving the destination-dispute up to
the pilots to decide after the plane has taken off. i think the airline's
customers would get restive… <span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</div> </div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">mikey<span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div>
</div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif""> </span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Julie
Hedlund wrote:<span lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><br> <br> <br> <span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">All,<br>
<br> Attached in Word and PDF are the revised Draft Principles based on the
changes agreed to on today’s call. Note that the redline reflects new
additions on the call. Redlining was removed where edits from the list
and the meeting on 22 November have been accepted. This also is posted to
the wiki at: </span><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue"
lang="PT-BR"><a target="_blank"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsoccwgdraftteam/5.+Background+Documents";><span
lang="EN-US">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsoccwgdraftteam/5.+Background+Documents</span></a></span></u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">.
<br> <br> Note: As discussed the rationale section is included,
but it was agreed that it would not be included in the version sent to the
Council. However, further edits to the rationale text are encouraged as
these may be useful to provide during Council discussions.<br> <br> Our next
call is scheduled for<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Tuesday, 20 December at UTC/1200
PST/1500 EST/2000 London/2100 CET. </b>A reminder will be send prior to
the call.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br> <br> Best
regards,<br> <br> Julie<br> <br> Attendees: Jonathan Robinson (Chair),
Chuck Gomes, Alan Greenberg, Mikey O’Conner, Wendy Seltzer, Jaime Wagner;
Staff: Julie Hedlund, Liz Gasster, and Nathalie Peregrine</span><span
lang="PT-BR"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><Draft Principles for CWGs 13 Dec
2011.doc><Draft Principles for CWGs 13 Dec 2011.pdf><span
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