RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

[Jonathan Zuck <jzuck@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Why not

From: owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosemary Sinclair
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:18 PM
To: Berry Cobb
Cc: gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

Berry

I think this is fine

Cheers, R

Rosemary Sinclair
Director, External Relations
Australian School of Business
UNSW
+61 413 734490

On 23/02/2012, at 7:43 AM, "Berry Cobb" 
<mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Team,

Based on Jeff's comments below, I started to change the Registry Operator 
number to 14 (as it should be).  However, Jeff also brings up an excellent 
point with respect to Affiliated Registrars (290+) vs. Accredited Registrars 
(1000).  To remain consistent, I'm asking the group's approval to keep the 
Registry Operator number at 16 with the appropriate footnote since we do not 
have a quick and definitive way to determine the Affiliated Registrar count.

If the WG has any objection, please respond to the list.

I will be sending out the final PDF this afternoon.  Thank you.  B

Berry Cobb
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
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From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr 
[mailto:langdonorr@xxxxxxxxx]<mailto:[mailto:langdonorr@xxxxxxxxx]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 21:56
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Berry Cobb; 
gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

Regardless of the "affiliated group use ( or not  {I'm happy either way} ) what 
we DO need to ensure is that the text properly and clearly outlines the 
rationale for the choice  made...  language  from Jeff below in a footnote / 
clarification point / Note etc.,etc., would be just fine for that purpose IMO)  
but we need to be clear what the definition is and why it is 18 in the IANA dB 
and 14 listed  etc., etc.,)


Cheryl Langdon-Orr
(CLO)



On 22 February 2012 15:41, Neuman, Jeff 
<Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thanks Berry.  I think it depends on the purpose for which the data will be 
used.  Technically in IANA, the information is correct as those may be the 
legal institutions responsible for the spaces and they all could still be 
separate legal entities.  But for this working group that is looking at 
consumer and competition issues, I believe it should be considered in light of 
affiliated entities. In other words, all registries in the same "affiliated 
family" should be grouped together.  The same is probably true for all 
affiliated registrars.

I hope that helps.

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

Jeff,

Thank you for catching this discrepancy.  The informal definition is what is 
listed as the sponsoring organization listed in the IANA dB.  It makes no 
mention of Afilias as the Sponsoring Org nor the Technical Contact.  In your 
opinion, do you feel the information is out of date on IANA or is this listed 
appropriately given they are wholly owned?  Oddly, I checked 
http://www.afilias.info/global-registry-services/gtlds and their site displays 
.mobi, but does not reflect .pro.  Either way, you are correct in my opinion.  
The number should be 14.

CCTC Team, from this point forward, I can maintain the master draft Advice 
Letter for last minute updates.  Please let me know if you have objections or 
feedback on the above.

Thank you.  B

Berry Cobb
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
720.839.5735
mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 18:51
To: Berry Cobb; 
gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

Berry,

What is your definition of "unique generic registry operators".  For example, 
today, mTLD and Registry Services Corporation (RegistryPro) is wholly owned by 
Afilias.  So, wouldn't the number be 14?

Thanks.

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

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 On Behalf Of Berry Cobb
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:57 PM
To: gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

Team,

Here are the updated existing TLD counts.  Take note, on this run I omitted the 
.gov, .mil and .int counts.  Let me know if you have questions.  Thank you.



1.       Source IANA.org<http://IANA.org> db 
(http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db):

a.       Quantity of total TLDs before and after expansion, assuming that gTLDs 
and ccTLDs generally compete for the same registrants - 311

                                                               i.      326 TLDs 
delegated at the root

1.       293 Country Code (38 IDN)

2.       18 Generic (4 generic, 3 generic-restricted, 11 sponsored) (**omits 
.gov, .mil, .int)

3.       12 others (1 infrastructure, 11 test **omitted)

b.      Quantity of gTLDs before and after expansion - 18

                                                               i.      18 
Generic TLDs (4 generic, 3 generic-restricted, 11 sponsored) (**omits .gov, 
.mil, .int)

                                                             ii.      AERO, 
ASIA, BIZ, CAT, COM, COOP, EDU, INFO, JOBS, MOBI, MUSEUM, NAME, NET, ORG, PRO, 
TEL, TRAVEL, XXX

c.       Quantity of unique Generic Registry Operators before and after 
expansion - 16

                                                               i.      VeriSign 
Global Registry Services

                                                             ii.      Telnic 
Ltd.

                                                            iii.      NeuStar, 
Inc.

                                                           iv.      mTLD Top 
Level Domain Limited dba dotMobi

                                                             v.      DotAsia 
Organisation Ltd.

                                                           vi.      Registry 
Services Corporation dba RegistryPro

                                                          vii.      
DotCooperation LLC

                                                        viii.      Afilias 
Limited

                                                           ix.      EDUCAUSE

                                                             x.      Museum 
Domain Management Association

                                                           xi.      Employ 
Media LLC

                                                          xii.      Public 
Interest Registry (PIR)

                                                        xiii.      Fundacio 
puntCAT

                                                        xiv.      Societe 
Internationale de Telecommunications Aeronautique (SITA INC USA)

                                                         xv.      Tralliance 
Registry Management Company, LLC.

                                                        xvi.      ICM Registry 
LLC

d.      Quantity of Generic Registry Service Providers before and after 
expansion - 6

                                                               i.      VeriSign 
Global Registry Services

                                                             ii.      Afilias 
Limited

                                                            iii.      NeuStar, 
Inc.

                                                           iv.      CORE 
Internet Council of Registrars

                                                             v.      Public 
Interest Registry (PIR)

                                                           vi.      Midcounties 
Co-operative Domains Ltd

2.       Source ICANN Accredited Registrars List 
(http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/accredited-list.html)

a.       Quantity of Registrars before and after expansion - 1000

                                                               i.      Within 
the pivot table, you will find a count of Rr by country


Berry Cobb
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