Re: [gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois] MP3 & Attendees - 20.03.13 / Privacy and data protection sub-team

[marie-laure Lemineur <mllemineur@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear all,

Apologies but I won´t be able to attend the upcoming Wednesday conference
call.

Best regards,

Marie-laure

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Please find hereafter the MP3 recording of today's Privacy and Data
> Protection sub-team as well as the participants and AC Chat Transcript.
>
> http://ftp.adigo.com/clients/icann/20130320_Thick_WHOIS.zip
>
>
> *Attendees: *Don Blumenthal, Roy Balleste, Marie-Laure Lemineur, Alan
> Greenberg, Susan Prosser, Steve Metalitz, Amr Elsadr
>
> Apologies: Carlton Samuels
>
> Staff: Marika Konings, Berry Cobb, Gisella Gruber
>
> Please note the next call is scheduled on *Wednesday 27 March 2013 at 2000
> UTC* (1300 PDT, 1600 EDT, 2100 CET).
>
> Thank you.
> Kind regards,
> Gisella
>
> *Adobe Connect Chat*:
>
>   Berry Cobb:Welcome to 'thick' Whois Privacy/Protection Sub-Team Meeting
> - 20 March 2013
>   Marika Konings:Hello all, I'll be joining the call a bit later as I have
> a conflict for the first 30 minutes.
>   Marie-laure Lemineur:Too bad we need you!
>   Marika Konings::-) I'll be there as soon as I can
>   Gisella Gruber-White:Susan Prosser and Steve Metalitz will be late
>   Alan Greenberg:Marika, I hope the conflict at 9 pm is a personal one and
> not a competing conference call!
>   Don::)
>   Marika Konings:I'm afraid it is a competing call :-(
>   Gisella Gruber-White:sorry got cut off!
>   Gisella Gruber-White:Berry - you can start - was just announcing staff
>   Alan Greenberg:IN that case, I hope you get overtime pay!
>   Alan Greenberg:I admit I have not yet read them...
>   Gisella Gruber-White:Back thanks
>   Marika Konings:Joining now - other call finished really quickly!
>   Don:Not surprising. I'll do them sooner next week.
>   Roy Balleste:Don, read your comments.  Look good to me.
>   Berry Cobb:From the Stability Report.....
>   Berry Cobb:Possible downsides for stability in a ‘thick’ Whois
> environmentSome WG participants are of the view that having personal data
> at multiple sites makes that data more susceptible to attack or misuse .
> This issue is addressed in the section on privacy and data protection. Some
> WG participants notes that there may be an increased risk of
> inconsistencies by having four copies of the data, while others pointed out
> that this risk can be mitigated by making use of multi-master replication  .
>   Marika Konings:@Marie-Laure, it may be of interest to include a link to
> that report and note that increased risk does not necessarily equal more
> harm.
>   Marika Konings:in relation to this issue
>   Marie-laure Lemineur:sure I´ll send the link..I have a hard copy right
> now
>   Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Susan
>   Gisella Gruber-White:and Welcome Steve
>   Amr Elsadr:Hi..., just joined the call. Apologies for arriving late.
>   Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Amr
>   Marika Konings:The original EU data protection directive is from 1995 if
> I am not mistaken
>   Roy Balleste:Marika, you are correct.
>   Don:Correct on original guidelines. Laws didn't come into effect until
> later over a long period.
>   Berry Cobb:
> http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/accreditation/model-privacy-policy
>   Marie-laure Lemineur:
> http://www2.lse.ac.uk/media@lse/research/EUKidsOnline/EU%20Kids%20II%20(2009-11)/EUKidsOnlineIIReports/Final%20report.pdfp.30
> and 31
>   Marie-laure Lemineur:report from LSE online risks and harm
>   Marika Konings:Also, an article estimates that any reform / new
> directives would at the earliest enter into force in 2015 (see
> http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_CH/ch/services/audit/regulatorycomplianceandlegal/74c9b8d745f36310VgnVCM1000001956f00aRCRD.htm
> )
>   Berry Cobb:,org 2004
>   Marika Konings:and still need to be agreed upon by the different parties
> involved (European Parliament, Member States, European Commission)
>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Steve. That seems accurate. The 1995 EU Directive on
> Data Protection is clear though on cross border transfer of personal data
> (articles 56, 57 and 58).
>   Amr Elsadr:
> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31995L0046:en:HTML
>   Marika Konings:In relation to the 'other PDP' that Alan referred to, you
> may be interested in commenting on this Preliminary Issue Report that will
> feed into the PDP that is expected to address the broader Whois questions:
> https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/gtld-registration-data-15mar13-en.htm
>   Amr Elsadr:Thnx. I had missed the question.
>   Amr Elsadr:Don't really have an answer right now!! :)
>   Susan Prosser:+1 Steve
>   Marie-laure Lemineur:fine
>   Amr Elsadr:thanks Don
>   Marie-laure Lemineur:thank you
>
> From: Gisella Gruber <gisella.gruber@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:01
> To: Privacy and Data Protection Thick WHOIS <
> gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: GNSO Secretariats <gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [gnso-secs] REMINDER / Privacy and data protection sub-team
>
>
>
>
> Please email gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx if you require a dial-out.
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> ******
>
> Dear All,****
>
>
> Please note the next call is scheduled on *Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 2000
> UTC*
>
> 1300 PDT, 1600 EDT, 2100 CET.
>
> ** **
>
> Please find the dial-in details below:****
>
> Participant Passcode:         * Participant: 3429 #**
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> Dial-in numbers: http://www.adigo.com/icann/  ****
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>
> *We will be using the Adobe Connect for this meeting:*
> http://icann.adobeconnect.com/thickwhois/
>
> Please email gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx if you require a dial-out.
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> ****
>
> Thank you.****
>
> Kind regards,****
>
> Gisella
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> Gisella Gruber
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