RE: [gnso-dow123] Security/stability questions

["Paul Stahura" <stahura@xxxxxxxx>]

Yes, our focus is on domain name whois, but we need to get answers
relative to something.  I propose another question:

4) Comparing IP address whois and domain name whois, which is more
useful to the stability and security to the internet?

That way we can get a relative measure of domain name whois importance
to stability and security.

And I'd add on #3, "if yes, what would be the impact?"


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:23 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Thomas Keller; Marilyn Cade; Jordyn A. Buchanan; Bruce Tonkin;
gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-dow123] Security/stability questions

Too many of the WHOIS discussions have assumed that WHOIS is critical to

many roles, without any evidence that it is.  I support starting with
the 
basic question "what role, if any?" or even simpler, "Does WHOIS play a 
role in supporting the Internet's security and stability?  If so, what
is 
that role?"

Let's not prejudge or shape the responses by the questions we ask.
Let's 
also make clear that we're talking about the domain name WHOIS, and not 
other WHOIS-like systems such as IP block registration.

Thanks.
--Wendy

At 11:04 AM 3/24/2005 -0500, Neuman, Jeff wrote:
>I think if you took out the word "if any" in the first question, that 
>would help..l have also tried to reword the others to sound more
objective.
>
>1) What role does Whois play in supporting the Internet's security and 
>stability?
>
>2) If there is such a role, what do you believe are the requirements of
a 
>Whois (or Whois-like system) to fulfill that role.
>
>3) Would there be an impact to security and stability of the Internet
if 
>access to some or all Whois data were restricted.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx]On
>Behalf Of Thomas Keller
>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:29 AM
>To: Marilyn Cade
>Cc: 'Jordyn A. Buchanan'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [gnso-dow123] Security/stability questions
>
>
>I fail to understand why asking questions should be considered as
>inquisitional. All we are doing is trying to find a solution
>to a problem. To do so asking questions to relevant bodies seems
>a very good approch to me and is exactly what we have been
>doing over the last years. After all, no one would be disapointed
>if the chair of the SSAC would have to take the questions back
>to the SSAC to discuss it there fore giving us an answer.
>
>Best,
>
>tom
>
>Am 23.03.2005 schrieb Marilyn Cade:
> > I agree these questions were those that were put forward by Thomas
and
> > others on the call, however, I want to urge a neutral tone/approach
to the
> > SSAC. We are as a TF, supposed to be examining the issues and we
don't want
> > to come across as inquisitional. Our task is to be above our
personal
> > opinions and examine all view points and data points. We are
"inviting" the
> > SSAC Chair to dialogue with us. These questions, and others could
provide
> > the basis for that dialogue.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can we approach the SSAC with that ? some questions, we may have
others,
> > welcome your views as chair, understand that the issue of whether
there 
> is a
> > later advisory opinion is open.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Jordyn A. Buchanan
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:40 PM
> > To: Bruce Tonkin
> > Cc: gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [gnso-dow123] Security/stability questions
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce:
> >
> >
> >
> > As we discussed yesterday, here are the questions that I propose we
> >
> > suggest that the SESAC chair address if he is available to brief the
> >
> > council/task force in Mar Del Plata:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) What role, if any, does Whois play in supporting the Internet's
> >
> > security and stability?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) What would be the security and stability impact of restricting
> >
> > access to some or all Whois data.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) What are the requirements of a Whois (or Whois-like system) to
> >
> > fulfill any security and stability role that the current Whois
system
> >
> > may support.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jordyn
> >
> >
> >
>
>Gruss,
>
>tom
>
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