RE: [gnso-dow123] Purpose of Whois : Types of problems
- To: <gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-dow123] Purpose of Whois : Types of problems
- From: "Milton Mueller" <Mueller@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:02:33 -0400
Marilyn, the BC statement is a model of procedural rectitude. Very well
organized and does everything the PDP asks us to do. No need to
apologize for being late when you do that thorough a job.
In the spirit of carrying on online discussions, let me address a few
points about the BC's position.
1. Your statements says that ICANN is "require[d]" or "mandated" to do
certain things by the R.A.A. But my understanding is that these task
forces can and will alter the R.A.A. in accord with any policies we can
reach consensus on. So a policy discussion that seeks justification by
invoking the current R.A.A. seems circular to me. If I misunderstand
this, someone please correct me.
2. The statement says, "ICANN's responsibility for stability and
security are highly relevant to an accurate Whois."
a. Surely we all agree that the Whois data should be "accurate" to
fulfill its purpose. But the real issue is what (accurate) data is
needed to fulfill its purpose and what that purpose is. I don't see
answers to those questions here.
b. As you know, I believe that mischief can be done by taking the term
"stability and security" out of context. ICANN is not responsible for
the stability and security of anything and everything. E.g., the
government of Iraq is, I think, out of scope. We need to specify what
ICANN is responsible for the stability and security _of_, and how the
data collected and displayed is required to fulfill that purpose.
>>> "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx> 08/23/05 1:11 PM >>>
Dear Jordyn and fellow TF members,
Attached is the BC final statement on WHOIS purpose and contacts. Sorry
be late in providing it to you.
Best regards, Marilyn Cade, David Fares and Sarah Deutsch
From: Marilyn Cade [mailto:marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:10 PM
To: 'jordyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'; 'gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [gnso-dow123] Purpose of Whois : Types of problems
Dear Jordyn, the BC position will be posted to the TF on Monday, having
achieved its formal acceptance by the Constituency. As a preview, the
support a perspective that the purpose of WHOIS is to address a number
problems, including those that threaten the security and stability of
Internet, but notes that is broader than "for technical purposes". We
be posting later in the day.
Best regards, Marilyn
From: owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx]
Behalf Of KathrynKL@xxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:52 AM
To: jordyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-dow123] Purpose of Whois : Types of problems
Thanks for issuing follow-up questions. As the statements show, NCUC
the Registry Constituency support listing a technical purpose for the
data. We also support the comments of the Article 29 Working Group of
Data Protection Commissioners which encouraged ICANN to allow WHOIS to
the technical functions while not compromising the privacy rights of
I would like to ask that comments on purpose also include why that
fits within ICANN's mission and core values. If we do, I think we
move this discussion much more quickly forward to closure.
<<1) Some constituency statements indicate that the purpose of the
Whois system is to provide contact information to assist in the
resolution of specific types of problems. For example, the NCUC
statement suggests that the purpose is limited to resolving
"technical problems". On the other hand, the IPC statement does not
limit the purpose to resolving a specific type of problem.
Should the purpose of Whois be defined in resolving specific types of