Re: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Domain Tasting - Outcomes Report version 1.4

[marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Hi, Jeff. I undersztand that the responses were to.  "An opinion poll". However 
the writeup needs to convey a description of what the poll was - e.g. Questions 
asked. Number of responses, etc. Right now it is written as mostly conclusions 
and recommendations. But omits methodology. 

An opinion poll cld be merely an email sent asking for views, if that was the 
case, the write up shld say so. 

Some of what is written seems to be more appropriate for the constituency 
statement. 

I understand that you want to respect that some registrarsparticipated. Perhps 
the participating registrars can wk w Jothan to getg the methodology described, 
number of responding registrars, etc. 
Regards,
Marilyn Cade


-----Original Message-----
From: "Jeffrey Eckhaus" <jeckhaus@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:28:03 
To:"Rosette, Kristina" <krosette@xxxxxxx>,       "olof nordling" 
<olof.nordling@xxxxxxxxx>,       <owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx>, 
<gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Domain Tasting - Outcomes Report version 1.4


All, 
  
I agree with Tim Ruiz on this issue, the Registrars were asked for an “Opinion 
Polling of Registrars regarding AGP”. The statements that have been provided 
are exactly what was requested. 
  
If ICANN staff has an issue, they should please direct this to the Registrars 
Constituency if Section 4.3 as provided does not fulfill their need as written: 
To direct the ICANN staff to work with the ad hoc group to gather further 
information and data about the domain tasting issue and make further 
recommendations on effectively scoping a PDP; 
  
-----Original Message-----
 From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Rosette, Kristina
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 1:52 PM
 To: olof nordling; marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx; owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx; 
gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx
 Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Domain Tasting - Outcomes Report version 1.4 
  
  
It would be acceptable to me to have the text of what is now section 4.3 
being included as an annex with a reference sentence in the body of the 
report. 
  
To avoid any misunderstanding:  I would agree to having any part of 4.3 
being included in the body of the report only if it was significantly 
revised so as to be limited solely to facts.  For example: 
  
RC developed [number] questions, which were [quote in entirety]. 
[Number of registrars} were polled; [number] responded/agreed to 
participate.  [Number] of these registrars had been in operation before 
AGP was introduced in [date].  [If polling was not open to all 
ICANN-accredited registrars, identify how polled registrars were 
identified and describe common characteristics].  None of participating 
registrars had ever engaged in tasting or kiting. [or accurate temporal 
and numerical description] 
  
[number] of respondents stated that they had used the AGP to provide a 
refund to a registrant who had mis-typed its desired domain name. 
[State frequency of such use, if asked, or state that didn't ask how 
often or number of instances.] 
  
[Number] of respondents stated that they had used the AGP for 
[refund-related purpose].  [State frequency of such use, if asked, or 
state that didn't ask how often or number of instances.] 
  
Anything else would have to go into the annex. 
  
Kristina 
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: olof nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:22 AM 
To: marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx; Rosette, Kristina; 
owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx; gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Domain Tasting - Outcomes Report version 
1.4 
  
Marilyn and all, 
That's perhaps an idea! 
Jothan & Kristina: Would Marilyn's proposal be acceptable to you? 
Thanks! 
Olof 
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: den 30 september 2007 00:00 
To: Kristina Rosette; owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx; Olof Nordling; 
gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Domain Tasting - Outcomes Report version 
1.4 
  
  
I agree with Kristina. The "conclusion document from the RC" written as 
is is  more appropriate as an annex.... With a simple sentence of 
reference in the body of the report. 
  
Nothing aginst a piece like this written by a constituency, but is not 
equivalent to a transparent poll. It can probably be fixed with a list 
of the number of respondents/the list of questions asked/etc, on the 
other hand if it was conducted more like a qualitative 'call out' which 
is still interesting, but not the same as an open survey, just describe 
the chacteristics of how the responses were gathered, and include as a. 
Annex. 
Regards, 
Marilyn Cade 
  
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: "Rosette, Kristina" <krosette@xxxxxxx> 
  
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:52:27 
To:"Olof Nordling" <olof.nordling@xxxxxxxxx>, <gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Domain Tasting - Outcomes Report version 
1.4 
  
  
All, 
  
Attached are my suggested revisions to part 1 of 1.4. 
  
I've copied into it the summary of the IPC RFI that I posted yesterday. 
  
One revision I did not make, but believe would be helpful, is to include 
the percentages that correspond to each reference to respondent rations 
(x of y respondents).  
  
I object strongly to the inclusion of 4.3.  The RC could have conducted 
its own Supplemental RFI.  It did not do so.  Based on the summary, the 
straw poll appears to have been fully devoid of transparency, and the 
"summary" relies solely on conclusory arguments and opinions.  It is my 
view that retaining it undermines the legitimacy of the entire report. 
I will seek further instructions from my constituency.  In the meantime, 
I have made substantive revisions.  
  
Kristina 
  
   
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Olof Nordling 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:31 AM 
To: gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Domain Tasting - Outcomes Report version 1.4 
  
Hi all, 
Please see my message below - it bounced at the ICANN server due to the 
attachment being too big....!!!! 
Now I have to send it IKEA-style, in two pieces, for you to assemble. 
Here is part 1. 
Best regards 
Olof 
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: den 27 september 2007 16:59 
To: 'gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx' 
Subject: Domain Tasting - Outcomes Report version 1.4 
  
Dear all, 
Please find a brand new version of our group's report attached. It's not 
yet a contender for the Nobel Prize in literature, I'ld say, but there 
are plenty of novelties in relation to the previous version: 
- new ccTLD annex and summary from Patrick J 
- registrar poll section filled with text from Jothan F 
- APWG and MarkMonitor (partly!) responses entered in annex 2 
- response to the UDRP survey from Kristina R included in annex 
- question 15 updated, with individual names of those giving consent 
- new annexes for IPC survey and VeriSign request 
- data on .biz and .org from Jeff N entered in 4.2 
- some hyperlinks introduced to simplify life for the reader 
- text edits done as agreed on call (I hope - do check, please!) 
- BigPulse overview in annex, table frames nudged (OK now, Jothan?) 
- and, and - what did I forget?......ouf 
  
Now, with our ultimate deadline looming, your comments are needed by COB 
Friday 28 September to enable a Final Draft to be circulated in time for 
the final conference call next week. Then, the Final Version goes to the 
GNSO Council on 4 October. 
  
Wishing you happy reading! 
  
Olof