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RE: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Regarding private/sensitive information

  • To: <gaaron@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Fast Flux Workgroup'" <gnso-ff-pdp-May08@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Regarding private/sensitive information
  • From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:04:35 -0500

Hi Greg n'Mike,

I don't really find it satisfactory either, but I don't see a way to arrive at a secure solution (and figuring one out is outside the scope of our endeavor). The puzzler with the private wiki is that we don't really have a mechanism to keep that information private. None of us are under any kind of constraint when it comes to reposting that information elsewhere (either to our public lists/wiki, or to friends and associates). That's what I was referring to when I mentioned the problems associated with becoming the "leak police."

So again, I would discourage people from sharing sensitive information with this particular group -- we're really not constructed to protect it.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just don't see a practical solution. Contracts or non-disclosure agreements? Ugh, too hard, too slow, too distracting. Not to mention alien to the open nature of ICANN conversations.

It seems like what we could do is suggest topics for a study that was conducted by an easier-to-secure group of people, at some future date. But I'm pretty convinced that the best course for *us* is a public conversation.

If anybody's got a practical solution to this puzzler, I'm all ears though.


At 08:55 AM 7/16/2008, Greg Aaron wrote:
Dear Mike:

I don't feel that solution is satisfactory.  The info I mailed was of
interest to the entire group, and solicited the collective expertise of the

Perhaps we should work on making the private wiki a more conducive place for
posting threads of this nature?  We need a place where sensitive information
is visible to the entire group.  And may be counterproductive to have
totally offline, side conversations that miss someone who may have something
pertinent to say.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:01 AM
To: Fast Flux Workgroup
Subject: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Regarding private/sensitive information

Dear all,

I've had a chance to sleep on the puzzler of maintaining private
*and* public conversations for the working group.

I've arrived at the following.  Given the nature of our group, I
think private-list conversation isn't really feasible.  So I'd like
to propose the following;

- Posts to the group are public

- Private/sensitive information can be exchanged between individuals,
off-list, based on individual trust relationships

- Conclusions from those private conversations can be sanitized and
posted to the public list

Simple, no?  I've had several off-list conversations about this and
have concluded that handling "leak containment" is beyond me.  :-)

So -- don't post sensitive information to the list.



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