RE: [gnso-geo-dg] Principles for ICANN Region discussion

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well said Tim.
 
Chuck


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        From: owner-gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
        Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:55 PM
        To: gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [gnso-geo-dg] Principles for ICANN Region
discussion
        
        
        I agree with what you're getting at. I had the same problem
trying to figure out how to word it, or to do it. I chose the word
*fairly,* but that really doesn't capture the whole idea. 
         
        While I strongly feel that we need to be careful not to exclude
certain views or interests by being to broad in rolling up certain
regions, we should balance that with consideration for fair
representation. 
         
        For example, I think it's possible that rolling up the middle
east into Europe may not allow for representation of that part of the
world within ICANN. The sensibilities, culture, and social mores of that
region are quite different from that of most of what is typcially
considered Europe. On the other hand, Europe has four times the
population of the Middle East and almost ten times as many Internet
users. So, should a Middle East region have *equal* representation with
Europe, North America, and Asia? 
         
         
        Tim 
        
        

                -------- Original Message --------
                Subject: RE: [gnso-geo-dg] Principles for ICANN Region
discussion
                From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Date: Mon, August 11, 2008 1:07 pm
                To: "Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
<gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx>
                
                
                Good contributions Tim.  I recall something else you
said in today's meeting that possibly could be converted into a
principle for consideration.  What I am referring to is your comments
about the number of current users in Australia and New Zealand compared
to some other regions.  I took the liberty to word it into a principle
for consideration: "Existing users should not be inordinately
disenfranchised for the goal of fairly representing user groups who are
not yet active and may not be able to effectively participate in the
near term."  I am not totally comfortable with this wording but
hopefully it expresses somewhat of what I am getting at.
                 
                I can't help but thinking of the bicameral model in this
regard.  It seems important to somehow balance the participation of
groups based on their current level of use of the Internet with those
who are underrepresented currently.  The way this happens in the U.S. is
two legislatively houses, one for which each state, regarless of
population gets two Senators and the other for which Representatives are
election according to population.  Obviously, I am not thinking of a
legislative model, but it might be worthwhile thinking of some ways that
both needs could be met at the same time and could even be dynamic to
adjust to the changing Internet world.
                 
                Chuck


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                        From: owner-gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
                        Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:16 PM
                        To: gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [gnso-geo-dg] Principles for ICANN
Region discussion
                        
                        
                         
                        1. The designation of ICANN regions should take
into consideration the varying views, concerns, and interests of the
users and residents of various parts of the world. The designation of
regions should provide the opportunity for those diverse views to be
fairly represented within ICANN processes.
                         
                        2. Sufficient outreach should be undertaken to
understand as fully as possible the varying views, concerns, and
interestes of users and residents around the world.
                         
                        3. There may not be an existing designation of
regions that will satisfy principle 1. However, reviewing existing
designations will be helpful and may serve as a basis upon which to
build.
                         
                         
                        Tim