Re: [gnso-geo-dg] ICANN Board Motion on Geo Diversity

["Olga Cavalli" <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for your comments Tim.
Regards
Olga

2008/9/19 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

> Thanks Tim.
>
> Chuck
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:28 AM
> > To: Gomes, Chuck
> > Cc: gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx; Olga Cavalli
> > Subject: RE: [gnso-geo-dg] ICANN Board Motion on Geo Diversity
> >
> > Sorry for the belated comments, just getting back on track
> > after a long vacation.
> >
> > I agree with revising *citizenship* to *citizenship or
> > domicile* as Chuck suggests. And I agree that defining what
> > lengthin time is reasonable, we don't have to go into that in
> > our statement. We are just suggesting principles and the
> > details will be worked out within the group once it is formed.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: [gnso-geo-dg] ICANN Board Motion on Geo Diversity
> > From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Fri, September 05, 2008 11:06 am
> > To: "Olga Cavalli" <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Good points Olga.  I would like to hear from our geo group
> > how people react to changing 'citizenship' in our comments to
> > "citizenship or domincile".  Because Tim was a strong
> > advocate of this, I especially would like to see his thoughts
> > about this.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > From: olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:24 AM
> > To: Gomes, Chuck
> > Cc: gnso-geo-dg@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [gnso-geo-dg] ICANN Board Motion on Geo Diversity
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck,
> > I agree with you that this possible flexibility for the
> > NonCom appointed directors is relevant to our discussion and
> > also for selecting good candidates for the Board.
> > In general reading the outcomes of our document, the set of
> > principles that we drafted also brings flexibility to the
> > geo-reginos issue.
> > I can think of only one principle that may have a different
> > perspective:
> > 4. Geographic requirements relevant to membership of ICANN
> > bodies should be measured by citizenship.
> > Also, reading the text of the Board preliminary report some
> > questions comes to my mind.
> >
> > It says "some of the candidates have often lived in a country
> > for many years,.."
> >
> > and
> >
> >  "given that many people have lived for long periods of time
> > in, and represent the interests of, countries in which they
> > may not be citizens...." Defining what "many years" and "long
> > periods of time" will be relevant to make this flexibility effective.
> >
> > Have a nice weekend!
> > Regards
> > Olga
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/9/4 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Please note the
> > following exerpt from the ICANN Board Preliminary Report of
> > its meeting on 28 August.  It provides some increased
> > flexibility in applying geographical diversity requirements
> > for the eight NomCom appointed directors and John Jeffrey
> > noted in the discussion that "diversity calculations should
> > be consistent for seats 9 though 14".  I find this very
> > relevant to the recommendation we made in our proposed GNSO
> > comments regarding the formation of a community wide WG on
> > geo regions; this approach would provide a little more
> > flexibility with regard to GNSO director selections if a
> > similar motion changes the Bylaws in that regard and it
> > provides one exampe of how increased flexibility could be
> > provided in meeting geographic diversity requirements on the
> > GNSO Council.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > "Nominating Committee's Recommendation for ICANN Bylaws
> > Change regarding Criteria for Board Member Selection John
> > Jeffrey presented a proposed Bylaws change and requested that
> > the Board permit Management to post the proposed changes for
> > public comments.
> > Over the past several years, the Nominating Committee has
> > expressed concern that being required to count more than one
> > country of citizenship for diversity purposes often makes it
> > difficult to select the best candidates for the Board seats
> > that the Nominating Committee is mandated to fill. In
> > carrying out its responsibilities to fill Seats 1 through 8,
> > the Nominating Committee shall seek to ensure that the ICANN
> > Board is composed of members who in the aggregate display
> > diversity in geography, culture, skills, experience, and
> > perspective, by applying the criteria set forth in Bylaws.
> > The Nominating Committee also noted that some of the
> > candidates have often lived in a country for many years, and
> > thereby better represent the interests of that country than
> > any country of which the candidates may be citizens.
> > As the Nominating Committee requested, the General Counsel
> > provided the Nominating Committee with suggested Bylaws
> > revisions to reflect the Nominating Committee's stated goals.
> > In the proposal, domicile, not just citizenship, is to be
> > considered in the diversity calculation. The Nominating
> > Committee members have unanimously agreed that the proposed
> > Bylaws revisions would alleviate the concerns.
> > John Jeffrey noted that considering the possibility of
> > revising the method for calculating diversity for seats 1
> > through 8, staff determined that such diversity calculations
> > should be consistent for seats 9 though
> > 14 and have proposed revisions accordingly.
> > Bruce Tonkin moved and Harald Alvestrand seconded a motion
> > that the proposed changes to the bylaws be posted for public
> > comment and then considered again by the Board, via the
> > following resolution:
> > Whereas, the Nominating Committee has expressed concern that,
> > pursuant to the Bylaws mandated diversity requirements that
> > no more than five Board members be citizens of any one
> > geographic region, the Nominating Committee is required to
> > count all countries of citizenship for each candidate.
> > Whereas, the Nominating Committee has noted that the
> > requirement to count all countries of citizenship has caused
> > some selection difficulties each year over the past several years.
> > Whereas, the Nominating Committee has also expressed concern
> > that the calculation is presently limited to citizenship
> > given that many people have lived for long periods of time
> > in, and represent the interests of, countries in which they
> > may not be citizens.
> > Whereas, making a diversity calculation pursuant to the ICANN
> > Bylaws as it relates to Board member selection for seats 1
> > through 14 should be consistent.
> > It is hereby resolved (__.2008) that the following proposed
> > revisions to Article VI, Sections 2.2 and 2.3, shall be
> > posted for public comment in accordance with ICANN's normal
> > process for proposed Bylaw revisions."
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