RE: [gnso-idng] June 17, 22:00UTC meeting [RE: Reminder - DOODLE / IDNG WG Motion Draft2]

["Edmon Chung" <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

understood.

Not interested to rush it through.  Think the discussion is emerging and we
will have better direction as we move along. 

Edmon

 

 

From: owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:35 PM
To: Edmon Chung; 'GNSO Secretariat'; gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-idng] June 17, 22:00UTC meeting [RE: Reminder - DOODLE /
IDNG WG Motion Draft2]

 

Hello Edmon,

I’ve just filled in the Doodle to indicate that I could not make any of the
proposed times.

I find it unreasonable to expect this group’s participants to take part in a
meeting at such short notice and so soon before an ICANN meeting. Most of us
will either be travelling (that’s the case for me) or too jet-lagged to be
able to attend.

To me, this is yet another indication that this discussion, and the
subsequent motion, is being rushed through.

I would suggest this meeting be scheduled in Sydney (if possible still) or
just after so that all members of the group can participate in a meaningful
way and that no motion be tabled until then.

Thanks,

Stéphane


Le 17/06/09 10:19, « Edmon Chung » <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

Lets do 2200UTC Wed 17th June.
 
Here is a very brief set of agenda items:
1. General wording of motion (regarding WHEREAS section)
2. Time before the full new gTLD implementation for the IDN gTLD fast track
to be meaningful
3. Utility of an IDN gTLD Fast Track regardless if it is implemented
4. Measures to prevent consequential delays to the full new gTLD
implementation.
 
Talk to you all then
 
Edmon
 
 
PS. Glen, please help send call in info.
 
 
 

From: owner-ntfy-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ntfy-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of GNSO Secretariat
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:50 AM
To: ntfy-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Reminder - DOODLE / IDNG WG Motion Draft2
Importance: High

Dear All,

The call will either be at 2200 UTC tomorrow Wednesday 17th June OR Thursday
19th at 00:00 (midnight) UTC.

I will confirm in the next hours.

Thank you
Kind regards
Gisella

On 16/06/2009 18:23, "GNSO Secretariat" <gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear All,

For those who have NOT yet responded to this Doodle, please do so as soon as
possible in order to confirm and set up this call.

Thank you
Kind regards
Gisella


On 15/06/2009 23:10, "GNSO Secretariat" <gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear All,

Further to Edmond’s email, please find hereafter the Doodle poll for the
call this week. The poll will remain open until Tuesday 16 June 2200 UTC.

http://www.doodle.com/dckesbrasg858pud

Please complete with all suitable options.

We will confirm the call date/time as soon as all participants have
responded.

Thank you
Kind regards
Gisella

---------------------------- 
Gisella Gruber-White
On behalf of GNSO Secretariat
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

Email: gisella.gruber-white@xxxxxxxxx
Tel: +44 7545 334 360
Skype ID: gisella.gw





------ Forwarded Message
From: Edmon Chung <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:51:40 -0700
To: <gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-idng] IDNG WG Motion Draft2



Oops, pressed send prematurely (meant to press save):
I meant to incorporate the concerns expressed:
1. that there should be substantial time before the full new gtld process is
implemented
2. that there be no delay for the full new gtld process
3. that we do not waste time waiting for the ICANN board deliberations

Some additions below as well (to complete the proposed motion wording)

Edmon


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Edmon Chung
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:31 PM
> To: gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gnso-idng] IDNG WG Motion Draft2
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Based on the discussion earlier, I have added 3 additional elements to the
motion
> to incorporate the concerns:
> 1. that
> 2. that no delay
> 3.
>
> Basically to add 2 more points to the motion (first point below was not
changed
> from version 1 of the draft motion):
>
> - To recommend to the ICANN Board that an IDNG WG (Internationalized
Generic
> Top-Level Domain Working Group) be formed under the Proposed Charter for
the
> IDNG Working Group (IDNG WG).
>
> - To emphasize to the ICANN Board that the full New gTLD process must not
be
> delayed because of work of the IDNG WG or the subsequent implementation of
> the IDNG WG recommendations if they are accepted, and to implement the
IDNG
> WG recommendations only if the acceptance of IDN gTLD Fast Track
> applications is at least 6 months before the then anticipated

deadline for applications for the first round of the full new gTLD process.

>
> - To initiate a GNSO Working Group as a preparation group to start the
> discussions, and which should merge into the IDNG WG when formed by the
> ICANN Board.
>
>
> Below is the revised motion (basically added the above to the previous
version).
>
> Of course, comments welcome on mailing list.
>
> Lets also try to have a conference call this week if possible suggested
1hr within:
> Wed OR Thu (June 17/18) 21:00-24:00 UTC (=5-8AM next day HKT / 7-10AM next
> day Sydney / 2-5PM PT / 5-8PM ET / 11PM-2AM Paris time)
> Hope the times could work for most...
>
> Glen, could you please help setup a doodle for the meeting and
subsequently the
> conf call.  Thanks so much.
>
> Edmon
>
>
> ========================================
>
> WHEREAS:
>
> The ICANN community has been discussing issues related to IDN and IDN TLDs
> since 2000, and the ICANN board as early as September 2000 recognized
"that it
> is important that the Internet evolve to be more accessible to those who
do not
> use the ASCII character set";
>
> There is expressed demand from the community, especially from language
> communities around the world who do not use English or a Latin based
script as
> a primary language, including the CJK (Chinese Japanese Korean)
communities
> and the right-to-left directional script communities (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew,
Persian,
> etc.), for advancing the introduction of Internationalized Top-Level
Domains (IDN
> TLDs);
>
> GNSO IDN WG successfully completed its outcomes report in March 2007 and
> the GNSO Council approved the incorporation of its findings in the GNSO
Final
> Report on the Introduction of New gTLDs in September 2007, describing
policy
> requirements for the introduction of IDN gTLDs;
>
> The community observes the successful development of the IDN ccTLD Fast
> Track based on the IDNC WG recommendations, and the ongoing progress for
> the Implementation of the IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process;
>
> The implementation of the New gTLD process is ongoing and the schedule and
> development of the implementation should continue;
>
> GNSO Council had made comments in response to the ccNSO-GAC Issues
> Report on IDN Issues, as well as in its comments on the IDNC WG Final
Report
> expressed that “the introduction of IDN gTLDs or IDN ccTLDs should not be
> delayed because of lack of readiness of one category, but if they are not
> introduced at the same time, steps should be taken so that neither
category is
> advantaged or disadvantaged, and procedures should be developed to avoid
> possible conflicts”;
>
> GNSO Council made a resolution in January 2009 to assert that “the GNSO
> Council strongly believes that neither the New gTLD or ccTLD fast track
process
> should result in IDN TLDs in the root before the other unless both the
GNSO and
> ccNSO so agree”;
>
> An IDN gTLD Fast Track, if successfully implemented, could be introduced
in
> close proximity with the IDN ccTLD Fast Track in the case that the New
gTLD
> process is further delayed, and could address the concerns expressed by
the
> GNSO Council regarding possible conflicts if IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs are
not
> introduced at the same time.
>
>
> RESOLVED:
>
> - To recommend to the ICANN Board that an IDNG WG (Internationalized
Generic
> Top-Level Domain Working Group) be formed under the Proposed Charter for
the
> IDNG Working Group (IDNG WG).
>
> - To emphasize to the ICANN Board that the full New gTLD process must not
be
> delayed because of work of the IDNG WG or the subsequent implementation of
> the IDNG WG recommendations if they are accepted, and to implement the
IDNG
> WG recommendations only if the acceptance of IDN gTLD Fast Track
> applications is at least 6 months before the then anticipated

deadline for applications for the first round of the full new gTLD process.

>
> - To initiate a GNSO Working Group as a preparation group to start the
> discussions, and which should merge into the IDNG WG when formed by the
> ICANN Board.
>
>





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