Re: [gnso-idng] June 17, 22:00UTC meeting [RE: Reminder - DOODLE / IDNG WG Motion Draft2]

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Edmon,

I¹ve just filled in the Doodle to indicate that I could not make any of the
proposed times.

I find it unreasonable to expect this group¹s participants to take part in a
meeting at such short notice and so soon before an ICANN meeting. Most of us
will either be travelling (that¹s the case for me) or too jet-lagged to be
able to attend.

To me, this is yet another indication that this discussion, and the
subsequent motion, is being rushed through.

I would suggest this meeting be scheduled in Sydney (if possible still) or
just after so that all members of the group can participate in a meaningful
way and that no motion be tabled until then.

Thanks,

Stéphane


Le 17/06/09 10:19, « Edmon Chung » <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Lets do 2200UTC Wed 17th June.
>  
> Here is a very brief set of agenda items:
> 1. General wording of motion (regarding WHEREAS section)
> 2. Time before the full new gTLD implementation for the IDN gTLD fast track to
> be meaningful
> 3. Utility of an IDN gTLD Fast Track regardless if it is implemented
> 4. Measures to prevent consequential delays to the full new gTLD
> implementation.
>  
> Talk to you all then
>  
> Edmon
>  
>  
> PS. Glen, please help send call in info.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: owner-ntfy-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ntfy-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of GNSO Secretariat
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:50 AM
> To: ntfy-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Reminder - DOODLE / IDNG WG Motion Draft2
> Importance: High
>  
> Dear All,
> 
> The call will either be at 2200 UTC tomorrow Wednesday 17th June OR Thursday
> 19th at 00:00 (midnight) UTC.
> 
> I will confirm in the next hours.
> 
> Thank you
> Kind regards
> Gisella
> 
> On 16/06/2009 18:23, "GNSO Secretariat" <gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> For those who have NOT yet responded to this Doodle, please do so as soon as
> possible in order to confirm and set up this call.
> 
> Thank you
> Kind regards
> Gisella
> 
> 
> On 15/06/2009 23:10, "GNSO Secretariat" <gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Further to Edmond¹s email, please find hereafter the Doodle poll for the call
> this week. The poll will remain open until Tuesday 16 June 2200 UTC.
> 
> http://www.doodle.com/dckesbrasg858pud
> 
> Please complete with all suitable options.
> 
> We will confirm the call date/time as soon as all participants have responded.
> 
> Thank you
> Kind regards
> Gisella
> 
> ----------------------------
> Gisella Gruber-White
> On behalf of GNSO Secretariat
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> 
> Email: gisella.gruber-white@xxxxxxxxx
> Tel: +44 7545 334 360
> Skype ID: gisella.gw
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------ Forwarded Message
> From: Edmon Chung <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:51:40 -0700
> To: <gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [gnso-idng] IDNG WG Motion Draft2
> 
> 
> 
> Oops, pressed send prematurely (meant to press save):
> I meant to incorporate the concerns expressed:
> 1. that there should be substantial time before the full new gtld process is
> implemented
> 2. that there be no delay for the full new gtld process
> 3. that we do not waste time waiting for the ICANN board deliberations
> 
> Some additions below as well (to complete the proposed motion wording)
> 
> Edmon
> 
> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf Of Edmon Chung
>> > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:31 PM
>> > To: gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [gnso-idng] IDNG WG Motion Draft2
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > Based on the discussion earlier, I have added 3 additional elements to the
>> motion
>> > to incorporate the concerns:
>> > 1. that
>> > 2. that no delay
>> > 3.
>> >
>> > Basically to add 2 more points to the motion (first point below was not
>> changed
>> > from version 1 of the draft motion):
>> >
>> > - To recommend to the ICANN Board that an IDNG WG (Internationalized
>> Generic
>> > Top-Level Domain Working Group) be formed under the Proposed Charter for >>
the
>> > IDNG Working Group (IDNG WG).
>> >
>> > - To emphasize to the ICANN Board that the full New gTLD process must not
>> be
>> > delayed because of work of the IDNG WG or the subsequent implementation of
>> > the IDNG WG recommendations if they are accepted, and to implement the IDNG
>> > WG recommendations only if the acceptance of IDN gTLD Fast Track
>> > applications is at least 6 months before the then anticipated
> 
> deadline for applications for the first round of the full new gTLD process.
> 
>> >
>> > - To initiate a GNSO Working Group as a preparation group to start the
>> > discussions, and which should merge into the IDNG WG when formed by the
>> > ICANN Board.
>> >
>> >
>> > Below is the revised motion (basically added the above to the previous
>> version).
>> >
>> > Of course, comments welcome on mailing list.
>> >
>> > Lets also try to have a conference call this week if possible suggested 1hr
>> within:
>> > Wed OR Thu (June 17/18) 21:00-24:00 UTC (=5-8AM next day HKT / 7-10AM next
>> > day Sydney / 2-5PM PT / 5-8PM ET / 11PM-2AM Paris time)
>> > Hope the times could work for most...
>> >
>> > Glen, could you please help setup a doodle for the meeting and subsequently
>> the
>> > conf call.  Thanks so much.
>> >
>> > Edmon
>> >
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> >
>> > WHEREAS:
>> >
>> > The ICANN community has been discussing issues related to IDN and IDN TLDs
>> > since 2000, and the ICANN board as early as September 2000 recognized "that
>> it
>> > is important that the Internet evolve to be more accessible to those who do
>> not
>> > use the ASCII character set";
>> >
>> > There is expressed demand from the community, especially from language
>> > communities around the world who do not use English or a Latin based script
>> as
>> > a primary language, including the CJK (Chinese Japanese Korean) communities
>> > and the right-to-left directional script communities (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew,
>> Persian,
>> > etc.), for advancing the introduction of Internationalized Top-Level
>> Domains (IDN
>> > TLDs);
>> >
>> > GNSO IDN WG successfully completed its outcomes report in March 2007 and
>> > the GNSO Council approved the incorporation of its findings in the GNSO
>> Final
>> > Report on the Introduction of New gTLDs in September 2007, describing
>> policy
>> > requirements for the introduction of IDN gTLDs;
>> >
>> > The community observes the successful development of the IDN ccTLD Fast
>> > Track based on the IDNC WG recommendations, and the ongoing progress for
>> > the Implementation of the IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process;
>> >
>> > The implementation of the New gTLD process is ongoing and the schedule and
>> > development of the implementation should continue;
>> >
>> > GNSO Council had made comments in response to the ccNSO-GAC Issues
>> > Report on IDN Issues, as well as in its comments on the IDNC WG Final
>> Report
>> > expressed that ³the introduction of IDN gTLDs or IDN ccTLDs should not be
>> > delayed because of lack of readiness of one category, but if they are not
>> > introduced at the same time, steps should be taken so that neither category
>> is
>> > advantaged or disadvantaged, and procedures should be developed to avoid
>> > possible conflicts²;
>> >
>> > GNSO Council made a resolution in January 2009 to assert that ³the GNSO
>> > Council strongly believes that neither the New gTLD or ccTLD fast track
>> process
>> > should result in IDN TLDs in the root before the other unless both the GNSO
>> and
>> > ccNSO so agree²;
>> >
>> > An IDN gTLD Fast Track, if successfully implemented, could be introduced in
>> > close proximity with the IDN ccTLD Fast Track in the case that the New gTLD
>> > process is further delayed, and could address the concerns expressed by the
>> > GNSO Council regarding possible conflicts if IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs are
>> not
>> > introduced at the same time.
>> >
>> >
>> > RESOLVED:
>> >
>> > - To recommend to the ICANN Board that an IDNG WG (Internationalized
>> Generic
>> > Top-Level Domain Working Group) be formed under the Proposed Charter for >>
the
>> > IDNG Working Group (IDNG WG).
>> >
>> > - To emphasize to the ICANN Board that the full New gTLD process must not
>> be
>> > delayed because of work of the IDNG WG or the subsequent implementation of
>> > the IDNG WG recommendations if they are accepted, and to implement the IDNG
>> > WG recommendations only if the acceptance of IDN gTLD Fast Track
>> > applications is at least 6 months before the then anticipated
> 
> deadline for applications for the first round of the full new gTLD process.
> 
>> >
>> > - To initiate a GNSO Working Group as a preparation group to start the
>> > discussions, and which should merge into the IDNG WG when formed by the
>> > ICANN Board.
>> >
>> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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