RE: [gnso-igo-ingo] Nature of the problem / Evidence of harm discussion

["Novoa, Osvaldo" <onovoa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,
I think that was exactly the GAC's intention, to grant the Red Cross and the 
IOC initially and later to IGO and INGO special protections.  I don't think 
they are likely to suffer more harm than other trademarks and I think that in 
some cases some trademarks are more at risk than IGOs or INGOs.  This is why we 
think there is no need for a harm analysis.
The fact that a sufficient number of countries have granted some IGOs and INGOs 
special protections, through international treaties and/or international laws 
(I am not a lawyer so I don't know the differences between these), is what we 
consider a reason for ICANN to also grant them a special protection.
I cannot think of any situation in which an IGO or INGO can suffer harm that 
cannot be replicated for a private organization.
Best regards,
Osvaldo

-----Mensaje original-----
De: owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx] En 
nombre de Avri Doria
Enviado el: Miércoles, 13 de Febrero de 2013 11:32
Para: GNSO IGO INGO
Asunto: Re: [gnso-igo-ingo] Nature of the problem / Evidence of harm discussion


Hi,

Good points all.  And yet, we did not give reserved name status to all 
Trademarks.  In order to have any cause for more protection than the trademarks 
currently receive, there needs to be a standard of harm that goes beyond 
anything that has ever been recognized for trademarks.

It is that which must be shown, both for the creation of new policy and, in my 
view at least, for any admission criteria.  If we use GNSO Outcomes Report on 
Domain Tasting (2007) as the basis for policy or admission to special 
protections, we open yet another opportunity for trademark holders to gnaw at 
the apple.

avri



On 13 Feb 2013, at 08:14, Novoa, Osvaldo wrote:

> Hi Evan,
>
> First of all sorry if it sounded pedantic, I did not intend to ridicule or 
> disrespect those that asked for the harm, and sorry if it felt I did.
>
> What I meant is that there is series of known threats to the name owners 
> arising from the fact that some other third party might use their name for 
> other ends.
> From the GNSO Outcomes Report on Domain Tasting (2007) I extracted the 
> following.
> The possible harms might be:
> For the organization:
>       * Infringement of their trademark rights
>       * Erosion of brand name thru to user confusion
>       * Erosion of reputation thru users diverted to unexpected and 
> potentially harmful sites
>       * Loss of revenue thru diversion of traffic
>       * Increased monitoring costs and reduced possibilities to trace IPR 
> violators
>       * Increased brand enforcement costs from additional infringing 
> registrations
> For the Internet user:
>       * Confusion and lost of time when reaching an unexpected web site
>       * Dissatisfaction due to unintended or erroneous commercial transactions
>       * Harm from spamming, malware and fraud
>
> These are valid for any case when a domain appears with the name of any 
> company and it doesn't represent that company.  In the case of IGO and INGO 
> we considered that, due to the fact that an important number of governments 
> have decided to grant them a special protection, ICANN should also grant them 
> a special protection.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Osvaldo
>
>



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