[gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Draft Initial Report for IGO/INGO PDP WG

["Claudia MACMASTER TAMARIT" <MACMASTER@xxxxxxx>]

Agree with Chuck, David, and Avri.

If we are going to go down the route of separating the cells (as I had 
suggested two weeks ago), we need to make it clear that options are there to 
support protections for the IOs, separately, i.e., IOC, RCRC, IGOS, other 
INGOS.  It's also consistent with some views in the WG.  And quite frankly, we 
could continue for some time if we re-enter discussions of legal 
similarities/differences among IOs for this matrix.

That being said, unless we really expect people to use the matrix to check the 
box and vote, I suspect we will  spend much more time agreeing on the 
rationales for each organizations.  The current rationales would have be to be 
split rewritten for each IO/group of IOs, then commented on, and re-commented 
on.  Or we copy and paste current rationales along 4 different columns, which 
would be rather confusing and duplicative.

What we have is good.  If we can make the explanation better in an efficient 
way, let's do it.  But I hope we don't take this as an opportunity to air out 
our positions and viewpoints again and again.  (Or we might be accused of 
giving Sisyphus a run for his money.)

Best,
Claudia





From: Roache-Turner, David [mailto:david.roacheturner@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: 2013-06-06 19:26
To: Gomes, Chuck; Kiran Malancharuvil; Claudia MACMASTER TAMARIT; Jim Bikoff; 
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Subject: RE: Draft Initial Report for IGO/INGO PDP WG

Agree with you Chuck (apples and oranges un-separated equal fruit salad).

Best,
David

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[mailto:owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
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Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Draft Initial Report for IGO/INGO PDP WG

I would just make one modification to Kiran's suggestion: separate IOC and Red 
Cross.  I say that not because I personally think they need to be considered 
separately but because some in the WG have said they should be separated.  We 
might also want to say 'INGOs other than the IOC and Red Cross for (c).

Chuck

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Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Draft Initial Report for IGO/INGO PDP WG

Hi All,

I could support the below, but I recognize that one line of text is very easy 
to miss in a document this size.  Especially since, as Thomas rightfully 
stated, the majority of people will flip directly to the table, and may not 
read any disclaimer that precedes it.

I think it's easy to break it out in the cells.  For example, Recommendation 1 
can read:

            2nd-Level protections of only Exact Match, Full Name identifiers of 
the below organizations are placed in Specification 5 of Registry Agreement:

(a)   IOC and RedCross

(b)   IGOs

(c)    INGOs


Community members that support this Recommendation can say, for example, that 
they support 1(a), 1(b) and 1(c).

Thanks,

Kiran

Kiran Malancharuvil
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 On Behalf Of Claudia MACMASTER TAMARIT
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Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Draft Initial Report for IGO/INGO PDP WG

Support the below.
Best,
Claudia

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[mailto:owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Bikoff
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Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] Draft Initial Report for IGO/INGO PDP WG

Dear all,

We agree with Chuck that, with regard to publication for public comment, the 
group should not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Having said that, we would like to reiterate our recent comments,  which were 
submitted too late for inclusion in version 8.7 of the report.  We have 
included them in the attached document.

With respect the tables of protection options, perhaps the problem of 
distinguishing between the IGOs and INGOs can be solved with a simple 
explanation clarifying that the optional protection is offered for IGOs and /or 
INGOs.  The two categories of organizations may be considered separately from 
one another, and need not be considered together.  For example:

Please Note: In the column labeled "Top-Level Recommendation Options" below, 
IGO and INGO identifiers are listed together for the sake of simplicity.  With 
respect to each option, IGO and INGO protections may be considered separately 
from one another.
We also note that the text in the comment column of row 1 in each table 
requires clarification.  The current text may simply be an artifact of having 
merged several versions of the document, but the final version should not 
indicate that the options in row 1 of each table are inconsistent with the GAC 
advice and ICANN Board actions, at least with respect to the IOC.
Thanks,
Jim
James L. Bikoff
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