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Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] Re: For your review: Change of Registrant/Transfer Policy - by Thursday 12 March
- To: Berry Cobb <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@xxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] Re: For your review: Change of Registrant/Transfer Policy - by Thursday 12 March
- From: Arthur Zonnenberg <azonnenberg@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:07:06 +0100
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Hi Berry,<br>
<br>
This is indeed the IRTP-C and my comments are in the right document.
If we ask them for input and they ask us for input, is it clear to
them we are waiting for a decision from them? They seem to think
their mandate is not clear to begin with, so they are unlikely to
make any decisions soon.<br>
<br>
In addition for the IRTP-C,<br>
- it is necessary that the Account Holder can receive and pass the
credential on behalf of the Prior Registrant, to allow resellers to
correct data on the basis of their reseller agreement and a request
from the Registered Name Holder sent to the reseller instead of the
Registrar. Failure to do so will create situations where the data
*cannot* be corrected in cases the credential *cannot* be provided
to the prior registrant based on information in WHOIS or on file.<br>
<br>
I think we can all agree that it is safer to use existing Account
Holder data as a last resort versus using new Registered Name Holder
data which can be simulated.<br>
<br>
For our consideration later today.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-03-11 20:58, Berry Cobb wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Arthur,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank
you for your input. For a hint of clarification, this
thread is in response to IRTP-C. Part D has yet to form an
IRT. In regards to DMPM, should the WG choose to continue
forward with that use case, the intent will be to seek input
from that group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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again. B<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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A. Cobb<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Arthur Zonnenberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 11, 2015 03:09<br>
<b>To:</b> Caitlin Tubergen; Knight, Barbara;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@xxxxxxxxx</a>;
Theo Geurts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] Re: For your
review: Change of Registrant/Transfer Policy - by
Thursday 12 March<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi group,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the document, I have been quite busy and saw good
contributions by Theo and others so was less actively present
during this IRTP D. I still think registered name holder /
user friendliness is not a part of ICANN policy and that more
effort should be put into measuring current transfer
performance.<br>
<br>
That said, I also notice the Working Group on Data &
Metrics for Policy Making is brainstorming and searching for
more specific input on what to do: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-dmpm-24feb15-en.pdf";>http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-dmpm-24feb15-en.pdf</a><br>
Is there something we can do for them to provide that input?<br>
<br>
In any case, for this specific policy, please find my comments
in addition to the document with Barbara's comments attached.
Feedback welcome as always.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b>Arthur Zonnenberg</b> <br>
Product manager<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2015-03-07 02:24, Caitlin Tubergen
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Barbara,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your feedback!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have incorporated your
changes/comments into the attached document, which uses
the most recent version of the IRTP. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, I took the liberty of adding
some section numbers into the IRTP to it slightly more
organized. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Barbara" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:BKnight@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>BKnight@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Caitlin Tubergen <<a
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href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@xxxxxxxxx";>caitlin.tubergen@xxxxxxxxx</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@xxxxxxxxx</a>>,
Theo Geurts <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:theo.geurts@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>theo.geurts@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: For your review: Change of
Registrant/Transfer Policy - by Thursday 12
March<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I
have reviewed the latest draft and have a few comments
/ recommended edits (redlined in the attached). I
will also be soliciting additional feedback from
others in the Registry community but did not want to
hold up getting my initial feedback over. I
anticipate that any further feedback or comments that
may be forthcoming from the Registry community can be
provided during the comment period once it is posted
for comments. Thanks for all of your
efforts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Caitlin Tubergen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-impl-irtpc-rt@xxxxxxxxx</a>;
Theo Geurts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] For your
review: Change of Registrant/Transfer Policy - by
Thursday 12 March</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thank
you to everyone who participated in the call today.
For those of you who were unable to attend, please
find a link to the recording here: <a
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href="https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4howkg3hce/";><b><span
style="color:black;background:white">https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4howkg3hce/</span></b></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">During
the call, we discussed the outstanding issue from
our last call, which was the issue of third party
privacy/proxy providers and the potential challenge
of transmitting the change of registrant credential
to the underlying registrant. The members of the
IRT that were on the call with okay with the
proposed solution, which you will find in footnote
1. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
P/P issue was the last outstanding issue to discuss
before we post the draft policy for public
comment. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I
have attached the draft policy for your final
review. You will note that this is the hybrid
“Transfer Policy,” which will go out for public
comment. The Transfer Policy has two sections: the
IRTP in section I, and the Change of Registrant in
section II. The hybrid policy was recommended by
the WG. As you may remember, we had already worked
through recommendation 2, the time limiting of FOAs,
before we began discussing the Change of Registrant
function. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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you have any final questions or comments on the
draft policy, please submit them to me by <b><u>Thursday,
12 March</u></b>. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thank
you!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Kind
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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