Re: [NA-Discuss] GNSO reform and ALAC
- To: Bret Fausett <bfausett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, NA Discuss <na-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, gnso-improvements-report-2008@xxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] GNSO reform and ALAC
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:47:56 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Bret and all,
I've read the report in great detail, and the the ALAC
liaison still has no vote. However this is really beside
the point as far as a viable ALS that is a membership organization
if the members themselves don't have a voice and a vote, they
are religated to token representation or no actual representation
at all. Ergo, the ALS'es cannot reasonably reflect user issues,
of which there are many that are not now, and are with this report,
unlikely to ever be addressed within ICANN if at all other than
by themselves or outside of ICANN via other means.
BTW, same is true for independant registrants, whom are also
not and never have been represented in the GNSO/ICANN structure.
It also appears from this report that they never will be or
there is a underlying attitude for them not to be.
From where our members sit, this report represents pretty
much more of the same that has existed within ICANN for the
past 9 years and demonstrates a decided lack of ICANN fulfilling
it's mandate and mission as well as not in keeping with the
>From: Bret Fausett <bfausett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Apr 22, 2008 9:01 PM
>To: NA Discuss <na-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] GNSO reform and ALAC
>On Apr 22, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>> A more recent version of the draft has essentially gutted ALAC's role
>Speaking as the ALAC's former liaison to the GNSO (the position Alan
>now holds), the ALAC has *no* role in the GNSO, so there is nothing
>whatsoever to gut. The ALAC liaison is there as a non-voting member of
>the Council. From time to time, we have had some success is swaying
>the debate, but this is only because we made good arguments.
>Officially, we are only on the Council to exchange information back
>and forth. We have no vote. I don't know what the current draft shows,
>but virtually anything that required the ALAC/ALS views to be
>considered would be a step forward.
> -- Bret
>P.S. I'll read the report tomorrow and report back to the list again.
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