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Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution

  • To: Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution
  • From: Zahid Jamil <zahid@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:10:54 -0600

I would support Jim's amendment. 



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On 13 Mar 2012, at 15:06, Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Jeff, we and the Red Cross only agreed to the limitation for the top level. 
> We expect to review languages for the second level with all of the other 
> second level issues. Maybe you should say "The Drafting Team recommends that 
> at the top level of this initial round,..."
> 
> Jim
> 
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Mar 13, 2012, at 8:58 PM, "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> My gut is that we should take all subjectivity out of it and basically just 
>> state:
>> 
>> The GAC has proposed that the IOC and RCRC “names should be protected  in 
>> multiple languages—all translations of the listed names in languages used on 
>> the Internet…The lists of protected names that the IOC and RC/RC have 
>> provided are illustrative and representative, not exhaustive. The Drafting 
>> Team recommends that for this initial round, the list of languages currently 
>> provided in Section 2.2.1.2.3 of the Applicant Guidebook are sufficient. 
>> 
>> This is more objective and should not lead to any debate
>> 
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
>> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
>> 
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:47 PM
>> To: Konstantinos Komaitis; Jim Bikoff; Neuman, Jeff; Gregory Shatan; 
>> gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: David Heasley; Kiran Malancharuvil
>> Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution
>> 
>> My first reaction is that Konstantinos suggestion is reasonable.  Do any of 
>> you disagree?
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc- 
>>> dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Konstantinos Komaitis
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:40 PM
>>> To: Jim Bikoff; Jeff Neuman; Gregory Shatan; gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc: David Heasley; Kiran Malancharuvil
>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much for the clarification Jim. We should, however, 
>>> identify a way where any addition of new languages beyond this 
>>> illustrative list should be done in a way that is not arbitrary. I am 
>>> not certain how this can be achieved, but my point is to prevent the 
>>> addition of languages without having a mechanism where a)the need to 
>>> add the additional language is verified and, b) the addition is part 
>>> of a clear and unambiguous  justification of why the terms should be 
>>> protected because, especially under national laws.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Konstantinos
>>> 
>>> From: Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:22:20 +0000
>>> To: Jeff Neuman
>>> <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>>, Gregory 
>>> Shatan <GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, 
>>> "gnso-iocrc- dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>" 
>>> <gnso-iocrc- dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> Cc: David Heasley <dheasley@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:dheasley@xxxxxxxxx>>,
>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>> <kmalancharuvil@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:kmalancharuvil@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> Subject: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> Proposal 2 would now read as follows:
>>> 
>>> The GAC has proposed that the IOC and RCRC “names should be protected 
>>> in multiple languages—all translations of the listed names in 
>>> languages used on the Internet…The lists of protected names that the 
>>> IOC and RC/RC have provided are illustrative and representative, not 
>>> exhaustive.”
>>> 
>>> The Drafting Team agrees that the list of languages currently provided 
>>> in Section 2.2.1.2.3 of the Applicant Guidebook are illustrative and 
>>> representative.
>>> Other illustrative and representative languages can be added to the 
>>> list later, to cover the second level and later application rounds.
>>> 
>>> Jim Bikoff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> James L. Bikoff
>>> Silverberg, Goldman & Bikoff, LLP
>>> 1101 30th Street, NW
>>> Suite 120
>>> Washington, DC 20007
>>> Tel: 202-944-3303
>>> Fax: 202-944-3306
>>> jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-
>>> dt@xxxxxxxxx> [mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc- 
>>> dt@xxxxxxxxx]<mailto:[mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx]> On Behalf 
>>> Of Shatan, Gregory S.
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:10 PM
>>> To: Hughes, Debra Y.; Neuman, Jeff; Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-iocrc- 
>>> dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: Jim Bikoff; shankins@xxxxxxxx<mailto:shankins@xxxxxxxx>;
>>> christophe.lanord@xxxxxxxx<mailto:christophe.lanord@xxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Languge Issue Solution Is the 
>>> appropriate change:
>>> 
>>> 1.  To remove the last sentence of Proposal 2 2.  To remove all of 
>>> Proposal 2 (referring to as many languages as feasible), or 3.  To 
>>> edit Proposal 2 to support the utilization only of the languages set 
>>> forth in the AGB?
>>> 
>>> Leaving the rest of Proposal 2 doesn't seem to make sense to me, since 
>>> it is at odds with the proposed change below.  Thus, I would suggest 
>>> the amendment should be either 2 or 3 above.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gregory S. Shatan
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>>> pdc1
>> 
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