[gnso-iocrc-dt] Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from International Olympic Committee and Red Cross Names - 22 August 2012

[Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx>]

  Brian Peck:GNSO RCRC/IOC Drafting Team Meeting Agenda 22 August, 2012
  Alan Greenberg:Will be free earlier than expected so will be on call.
  Kiran Malancharuvil:Nathalie, David Heasley is also on the call.  Thanks!
  Nathalie  Peregrine:Noted, thank you Kiran!
  Kiran Malancharuvil:Alan, quick question, it is my understanding that 
inclusion of the IOC/RC in the PDP related to second round protections and did 
not bind the issue of protection for the IOC/RC in the first round to a PDP.  I 
asked this question during the working session in Prague, and I thought that 
was Brian's point.  
  Debra Hughes:can i get in the cue?
  Thomas Rickert:You are in the cue, Debra!
  Kiran Malancharuvil:Alan - what is the rationale for excluding the IOC from 
protection?  Is there a legal basis for that exclusion? 
  Nathalie  Peregrine:Greg Shatan sends his apologies for today's call
  Alan Greenberg:No, it is not based on a legal review.
  Kiran Malancharuvil:I would like to renew the argument that the IOC has made 
in the past , that regardless of any personal sentiment about the IOC, the 
protections are based on law, and both the IOC and the RC have legal bases on 
which the GAC has based protection.  
  Alan Greenberg:Regarding other protection mechanisms, I beleive that the UDRP 
is only TMs, but the URS explicitly includes treaty-based protections
  Alan Greenberg:My personal position is similar to that proposed by J Scott.
  Debra Hughes:Not to mention the incertainty we discussed related to the new 
gTLD rights protection mechanisms -- the status quo is problematic
  Alan Greenberg:Isn't the "exception" process at its core, a letter of 
approval from the IOC/RC?
  Kiran Malancharuvil:not at all Alan, if you recall the first level 
recommendations, the exception procedure included options for a letter of 
nonobjection and also any independant showing of legitimate interest to ICANN. 
  J. Scott Evans:Kiran, that's my recollection too.
  Alan Greenberg:We may still need an "appeal" to an independent body, but I 
agree with Chuck that we don't need to do that now.
  Kiran Malancharuvil:why can't we use the same mechanism we applied for the 
first level? 
  Kiran Malancharuvil:That question can and will be addressed in the PDP.  That 
doesn't eliminate the option of taking 3(a) subject to 5.  
  Kiran Malancharuvil:by "that question" I mean Chuck's point about  whether 
IGO protections are the same as protections of the IOC/RC
  J. Scott Evans:yup