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Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 September 2012

  • To: Wendy Seltzer <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 September 2012
  • From: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:17:40 +0500

Wolfgang gave the wrong impression.

The NCUC does not in any way or manner support a temporary reservation by 
whatever name it goes.

The NCSG has also takes that  position.

and i have informed the group of this often, no mater how Chuck now tries to 
divide and conquer. 

NPOC is in the NCSG Policy Committee and has not voiced an opinion other that 
the one that says the solution must include  UN and other humanitarian 
organizations.  But they don't need to as the Policy Committee works on rough 
consensus and being silent is good enough.  Yes it would have been really nifty 
if they had come out with a statement since you choose not to believe me.  
Nonetheless this is the view of the NCSG:

- no temporary reservations, no new adhoc reserved names lists, no moratoria. 
- yes  PDP

Wendy Seltzer <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On 09/27/2012 09:38 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>> Wendy,
>> 
>> I assume you mean recommendation 2 and any references to it in 3.
>
>Thanks for the clarification, Chuck.  I read too quickly.
>We reject the temporary registration block in paragraph 2, and its
>communication as described in 3b.
>
>> Is that a unanimous position from the NCSG?  Did the NPOC take the
>same position?
>
>I have not heard opposition on the NCSG discussion list.
>
>--Wendy
>
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-
>>> dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:50 AM
>>> To: Neuman, Jeff
>>> Cc: 'avri@xxxxxxx'; 'gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx'
>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance
>26
>>> September 2012
>>>
>>>
>>> Like Avri, I believe NCSG rejects the 3b "temporary registration
>>> block."
>>>
>>> We support the PDP only on the condition that among the possible
>>> outcomes is the current status quo, no protection at the second
>level,
>>> (but support the PDP as the appropriate place to resolve among
>>> competing proposals), so we would not change that before the policy
>>> development runs its course.
>>>
>>> --Wendy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/27/2012 07:30 AM, Neuman, Jeff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Avri,
>>>>
>>>> We are going to open up a public comment period on everything that
>>> has been received by COB today (wherever you are in the
>world)...just
>>> so Berry and ICANN has it when they come into the office in the
>morning
>>> Friday,  that said, Wolfgang was on from the NCSG yesterday, but did
>>> not express opposition to the moratorium.  I thought, and we can
>check
>>> the recording, that he said the NCSG supported the recommendations. 
>I
>>> could be off base, and Berry was taking notes so he can correct me.
>>>>
>>>> In either case, that opinion is not set in stone, but it is
>important
>>> as it sounded like on the call the was indeed a consensus on all of
>the
>>> recommendations (if just a rough consensus).  So, if you could
>confirm
>>> the NCSG position that would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent with Good (www.good.com)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:      Avri Doria [mailto:avri@xxxxxxx]
>>>> Sent:      Thursday, September 27, 2012 02:31 AM Eastern Standard Time
>>>> To:        gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject:   Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3,
>attendance
>>> 26 September 2012
>>>>
>>>> I unfortunately could not attend the meeting.
>>>>
>>>> I want to make it clear that I do not support a the moratorium, but
>>> do
>>>> support the PDP I also believe that this is the position of the
>NCSG.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that this is what was conveyed by the lone NCSG participant.
>>>>
>>>> What is the deadline for opposing statements?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            Please find the MP3 recording of the GAC/GNSO issues
>>> related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) and Red Cross (RC)
>>> names discussion group teleconference held on Wednesday 26 September
>>> 2012  at 1800 UTC at:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-ioc-20120926-en.mp3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the
>>> GNSO Master Calendar page:
>>>>
>>>>            http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Attendees
>>>>
>>>>            Jeff Neuman -  Registry SG group leader
>>>>
>>>>                    Wolfgang Kleinwachter - NCUC
>>>>
>>>>                    Lanre Ajayi - Nominating Committee Appointee
>>>>
>>>>                    Alan Greenberg - ALAC
>>>>
>>>>                    Chuck Gomes - RySG
>>>>
>>>>            Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC
>>>>
>>>>            David Heasley - IPC
>>>>
>>>>                    Jim Bikoff - IPC
>>>>
>>>>                    St├ęphane Hankins - International Committee of the Red
>>> Cross
>>>>
>>>>                    Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee
>>>>
>>>>                    Osvaldo Novao -ISPC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            Apology :
>>>>
>>>>                    Avri Doria -  NCSG
>>>>
>>>>                    J.Scott Evans - IPC
>>>>
>>>>                    Gregory Shatan - IPC
>>>>
>>>>                    Mary Wong - NCUC
>>>>
>>>>                    Brian Peck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            ICANN Staff
>>>>
>>>>                    Margie Milam
>>>>
>>>>                    Berry Cobb
>>>>
>>>>                    Nathalie Peregrine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the
>>> list **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            The mailing list address is
>>>>
>>>>                    Gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-iocrc-
>>> dt@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:Gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:Gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx> >
>>>> <mailto:Gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:Gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Public archives are at:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-iocrc-
>>> dt/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>            Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Nathalie
>>>>
>>>>            GNSO Secretariat
>>>>
>>>>            gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Avri Doria
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx +1 617.863.0613 Fellow, Berkman
>>> Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University Visiting Fellow,
>>> Yale Law School Information Society Project
>http://wendy.seltzer.org/
>>> https://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
>>> http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/
>> 
>
>
>-- 
>Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx +1 617.863.0613
>Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University
>Visiting Fellow, Yale Law School Information Society Project
>http://wendy.seltzer.org/
>https://www.chillingeffects.org/
>https://www.torproject.org/
>http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/

Avri Doria


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