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Re: [gnso-irtpc] questions for the IANA-number question

  • To: "Sedo :: Simonetta Batteiger" <simonetta@xxxxxxxx>, "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>, IRTPC Working Group <gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-irtpc] questions for the IANA-number question
  • From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:44:12 -0700

Hi Simonetta,

I think we did (see presentation attached), but as this was at the start of the 
WG, most might have forgotten about it ;-) However, the section on IANA IDs is 
relatively short, so I've pasted it below as a reminder.

With best regards,

Marika

>From the IRTP Part C Final Issue Report

IANA IDs for registrars

c) Whether the process could be streamlined by a requirement that registries 
use IANA IDs for registrars rather than proprietary IDs.

 *   When a registrar accredits with ICANN, an ID is assigned by ICANN to 
identify that particular registrar. See 
http://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids.xml for the most 
recent list. However, when a registrar accredits with a particular registry, 
that registry may also assign a proprietary ID to the registrar, which differs 
from the IANA ID.
 *   This issue of IANA vs. proprietary ID was raised as part of the Transfer 
WG discussions in 2005 where it was noted that ‘it would be an improvement for 
everyone to get rid of the proprietary registrar ids that differ from registry 
to registry’. The suggestion was to propose that ‘registries shall implement 
IANA ids in transfers instead’. (see 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/transfers-wg/msg00003.html)
 *    ICANN has insisted on the consistent use of the IANA ID for all 
registrars and it has streamlined andimproved communication and other aspects 
significantly as a result. There have been many problems over the years when 
registrars change their names or when registries record the names slightly 
differently in their records. From ICANN’s perspective, using a common, 
unchanging number assigned by ICANN (through IANA) would prevent such issues.
 *   Further information on the scope or nature that the use of proprietary vs. 
IANA IDs poses was encouraged as part of the public comment period on the 
preliminary Issue Report. The gTLD Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) pointed 
out that ‘registrar name changes often do make it difficult to ensure that the 
correct registrar is identified and use of the IANA ID may be helpful in 
confirming registrar identification’. The RySG also noted that ‘all registries 
that provide Monthly Registry Operator Reports to ICANN are required to provide 
both the registrar name and the IANA ID to identify registrar information in 
the Per Registrar Activity Report file so it is reasonable to think that all 
registries do maintain this information in their registration systems’.

From: "Sedo :: Simonetta Batteiger" 
<simonetta@xxxxxxxx<mailto:simonetta@xxxxxxxx>>
To: Mike O'Connor <mike@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>>, IRTPC Working 
Group <gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: [gnso-irtpc] questions for the IANA-number question

Marika/James: I don’t recall us actually reviewing that Issue Report on the 
IANA item, did we? That might be a good item to put back on the agenda for one 
of the coming calls…
Simonetta

From: owner-gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:51 PM
To: IRTPC Working Group
Subject: [gnso-irtpc] questions for the IANA-number question

here's that list questions we asked long ago


Understand why we're looking at this question -- what problems are we trying to 
solve

 *   + - Review Issue Report

o    Some issues were raised a long time ago -- are these questions still 
valid, given other measures that have been taken in the intervening time

 *   Identify justification, benefits and costs and how we demonstrate them
 *   + - Identify impacts/harms to registrars in addition to registries

    *   Are there material effects that result?
    *   Do those expand to registrants
    *   "Why are we doing this?"
    *   Identify streamlining/scaleability facets of the process

 *   Explore security questions/issues
 *   Look for reasons why not to do this -- include in the instructions for 
stakeholder feedback
 *   Why aren't they being used, level of effort required to change.
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Attachment: IRTP Part C Issue Report - 8 November 2011.ppt
Description: IRTP Part C Issue Report - 8 November 2011.ppt



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