Re: [gnso-irtpc] Invitation to Participate in Survey on Working Group Guidelines

[Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

And yet, you volunteered to co-chair IRTP-D.  A service postion I treasured in 
this WG.

I think the issue would be out of scope for the Standing Committee on 
'Improvements' (SCI).  Our mandate is to:

1.  review glitches that occur in the use of GNSO Operating procedure and come 
up with recommendations for fixing them
2. Periodically review the various GNSO processes overall for operational well 
being.

(3. Lately we have also gotten into a little bit of navel gazing trying to 
update our own charter as well.  I guess that is in any group's mandate.)

The issue of why the trend toward ICANN BoardStaff capture* is beyond its 
mandate (in my not so humble opinion as the SCI vice-chair)

But yes, I can understand the image that in today's ICANN environment, this 
poll may seem like arranging the chairs on Titanic.  But assuming we can save 
the Titanic in efforts elsewhere, we still need to have a WG methodology that 
works and we need to make sure that people on WGs have the tools they need.  
What use would it be to win the battle to preserve the bottom-up process but to 
abandon that process in the effort.

So thanks for filling out the questionnaire.

avri

* where it seems they want to forgo the PDP process and bring their own will to 
bear on all policy decisions, including a new effort to eliminate all picket 
fences what make Consensus PDPs even possible

On 9 Mar 2013, at 08:40, Mike O'Connor wrote:

> hi Ron,
> 
> i started filling out the survey and gently set my pen down.  the short 
> answer to all those questions is "yep, the Guidelines are fine, we reviewed 
> them, our co-chairs followed them and all is good."
> 
> but that survey, in the midst of all the recent events, highlighted a puzzler 
> for me.  the working-group process seems to be withering away -- Vertical 
> Integration and more recently the TMCH Straw Man, Registry Agreement and 
> Registrar Accreditation Agreement cram-downs and the Policy vs Implementation 
> debate all can be held up as examples of how the working-group process seems 
> to be drifting out of the mainstream of the ICANN process.  so this survey 
> felt a little bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
> 
> i think if the SCI wanted to dive into a broader issue, something like "the 
> relevance and effectiveness of the PDP and Working Group processes in today's 
> ICANN", they could perhaps do a great good. 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> mikey
> 
> 
> On Mar 9, 2013, at 7:20 AM, "Ron Andruff" <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Dear IRTP-C Working Group members,
>>  
>> As some of you may know, the GNSO Standing Committee on Implementation 
>> Improvements (SCI) has developed a survey for GNSO Working Groups, as 
>> requested by the GNSO Council, to solicit feedback on the GNSO Working Group 
>> Guidelines.  As Chair of the SCI, I am contacting your Working Group to 
>> invite you to take the survey because you have recently completed your work 
>> and, thus, may have valuable insight on the usefulness of the Working Group 
>> Guidelines and suggestions for improvements.  If you would like to take the 
>> survey you may wish to review the Working Group Guidelines and Summary 
>> first.  Please see the following links to the documents and the survey:
>>  
>> Link to the Working Group Guidelines: 
>> http://gnso.icann.org/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-08apr11-en.pdf
>> Link to the Guidelines Summary: 
>> http://gnso.icann.org/council/summary-gnso-wg-guidelines-06apr11-en.pdf 
>> Link to Draft Survey for GNSO Working Groups: 
>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FFTCJPT
>>  
>> The SCI appreciates your consideration of this request and we ask that if 
>> you wish to complete the survey please do so by **Monday, 25 March 2013.**
>>  
>> Thank you for your consideration.
>>  
>> Kind regards,
>>  
>> Ron Andruff
>> Chair, GNSO Standing Committee on Implementation Improvements
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Ronald N. Andruff
>> RNA Partners, Inc.
>>  
> 
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