[gnso-lockpdp-wg] MP3 Locking of a Domain Name subject to URDP proceedings - Thursday 6 December at 15:00 UTC

[Julia Charvolen <julia.charvolen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear all,



The next Locking of a Domain Name subject to URDP proceedings teleconference is 
scheduled for Thursday 13 December at 15:00 UTC for 1 hour.


Please find the MP3 recording of the Locking of a Domain Name subject to URDP 
proceedings teleconference held on  Thursday 6 December 2012  at 15:00 UTC at:



http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-locking-domain-name-20121206-en.mp3



On page: 
http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#<http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep>dec



The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master 
Calendar page:

http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/


Attendees:

Laurie Anderson – RrSG

Hago Dafalla - NCSG

Kristine Dorrain - NAF

Randy Ferguson – IPC

Lisa Garono - IPC

Alan Greenberg - ALAC (Vice-Chair)

Volker Greimann – RrSG

Yetunde Johnson - Individual

Celia Lerman – CBUC

David Maher - RySG

Michele Neylon – RrSG

David Roache-Turner - WIPO

Juan Manuel Rojas – ALAC

Matt Schneller - IPC

Faisal Shah - Individual

Apologies:

Gabriela Szlak - CBUC

Luc Seufer – RrSG


Staff:

Marika Konings

Berry Cobb

Julia Charvolen



** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **





Thank you.

Kind regards,

Julia Charvolen

For GNSO Secretariat





 Adobe Connect Chat transcript:

 Marika Konings:Welcome to the UDRP Domain Name Lock WG Meeting of 6 December 
2012
  Hago Dafalla:hi all
  Yetunde:hi
  Alan Greenberg:A coordinator will assist me momentarily...  Or not.
  Laurie Anderson:hi all
  Michele Neylon:dialling in
  Michele Neylon:give me a moment
  Volker Greimann:still stuck with elevator music
  Michele Neylon:as am I :)
  David Roache-Turner:Hi all
  Marika Konings:I've notified the operator
  Marika Konings:so hopefully he should get you all in as soon as possible
  Volker Greimann:in
  Michele Neylon:in
  Volker Greimann:customers money buys t-shirts
  Alan Greenberg:Food too!
  David Roache-Turner:including tofu
  Volker Greimann:Meats
  Volker Greimann:or meads
  Yetunde:I think it is a good idea to define lock etc
  Volker Greimann:that would however be a change to the UDRP policy in general, 
and not of the locking procedures
  Kristine Dorrain:you are correct, but Alan has contended its still within the 
scope of this group as a recommendation, so I wanted to just mention it.
  Marika Konings:Randy, Lisa and Matt have joined the call
  Matt Schneller:Sorry to be late.  Sniffly toddler = slow moving morning
  Matt Schneller:Pendency makes sense to me
  Volker Greimann:ist is not english, it is "legal"
  Volker Greimann:indeed
  David Roache-Turner:initiated would also work
  Kristine Dorrain:I like "initiated" too for the same reason...
  Kristine Dorrain:But I still feel like it's part of the scope of this group 
to provide a plain English "translation" of what the Registrars are expected to 
do.
  Matt Schneller:So just a definition like "Initiated means upon service of the 
Complaint on the [Provider or whatever the group decides, if we go with the 
straw man] by the Complainant."
  Laurie Anderson:I like "initiated".
  David Roache-Turner:initiated works for me also
  Kristine Dorrain:correct, Marika, but it was a verbal confirmation.  :)
  David Roache-Turner:"first notice" could also work - just not "notifcation" 
(too easy to mistake for formal notification and commencement of response 
response time), which comes after registrar verification and lock etc
  Kristine Dorrain:completely agree, David.
  David Roache-Turner:there are plenty of UDRP panel decisions which have 
considered pendency and cyberflight, if that would help
  David 
Roache-Turner:http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2006/d2006-0917.html
 is one example
  Matt Schneller:definitions it is, then
  David 
Roache-Turner:http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/text/2010/d2010-0387.html
 here is another
  David Roache-Turner:cheers
  Kristine Dorrain:and the time frame (and maybe a suggested process) for 
"unlock"
  David Roache-Turner:also process for removing in certain circumstances, e.g. 
party settlement
  Matt Schneller:On the timing front, maybe we be even more clear...
  LIsa Garono:The weekend is not Sat and Sun in certain parts of the world.  
Those are working days
  Celia Lerman:If we remove the requirement for the complainant to notify the 
respondent, then there's not that much urgency to lock as there is now
  Kristine Dorrain:It might help to note that "we" count a business day as from 
midnight on the date I send you an email until midnight the next day (excluding 
Sat, Sun, holidays)
  Kristine Dorrain:so there is no need to consider if the email was sent at 1 
pm, 10am, etc...
  Matt Schneller:poor computer using by me ;-)
  Kristine Dorrain:Celia, yes and no.  The UDRP process still has to be quick 
and we are still supposed to the compliance check within 3 days, so if the 
registrar takes a long time, there is still a problem.  :)
  Matt Schneller:I'm not
  David Roache-Turner:are we considering a process if a DN is not timely 
locked, or the failure to timely lock results in cyberflight, and how best to 
resolve these situations
  Matt Schneller:Kritine, maybe we just need to define "business day" to be 
clear - lots of people interpret "next business day" means the end of the next 
business day
  Kristine Dorrain:agree...I was just tossing out what we use
  Matt Schneller:I like that as a concept, though!  It's really clear and 
mirrors the "24 hour" requirement (applied to only working days) closer than 
anything else
  David Roache-Turner:usually in our experience, in suspended/setted cases, 
unlock usually happens in order to give effect to a settlement, but should be 
transferred only to the settling complainant
  Kristine Dorrain:But the beauty is that I can SEND that document to all 
registrars who write me and say "what am I supposed to do"?
  Michele Neylon:true
  David Roache-Turner:could we rely on icann compliance to also diemenate any 
registrar best pracice to all registrars?
  Kristine Dorrain:I think so, but I would not be shy to send it out liberally 
when there are questions.  :)
  Alan Greenberg:@David, I don't think that they consider that part of their 
mandate.
  Volker Greimann:hickup
  Kristine Dorrain:love "vestigial hand"
  Volker Greimann:phantom-hand
  Kristine Dorrain:thanks all
  Matt Schneller:later folks
  Yetunde:bye