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RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
- Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
- From: <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:26:02 -0400
Thanks, Adrian, John and everyone, for getting us off to such a good
start with plenty of suggestions!
I like Adrian's idea of calling it the GNSO Public Forum, rather than
the Open Council Meeting. If we also incorporate some of the other
excellent suggestions, we may yet be able to increase audience
participation and engagement at the session. Hopefully this will not
only provide the GNSO community with an opportunity to give direct
feedback and suggestions, it will also allow the Council to interact
directly with both active, regular GNSO participants as well as newer
entrants and other members of the ICANN community outside the GNSO.
To that end, may I bring up a previous suggestion (I forget by who,
sorry) that we do a general Open Mic at the beginning of the meeting?
This can supplement the regular, shorter Open Mic minutes that Adrian
has suggested interspersing with the topical discussions throughout the
meeting (on the assumption that these other open mics will be geared
more toward the specific topic under discussion).
I also support Adrian's ideas that (1) we discuss future motions at the
Public Forum, and solicit feedback from the community; and (2) each SG/C
(as appropriate) give a short update (especially since the Public Forum
will take place after Constituency Day).
Additionally, I'd like to suggest that we invite, and actively seek the
participation of, other ICANN groups and participants. In particular, I
think it would be useful to extend a welcome to ICANN Fellows and other
newbies (and in this respect, the Briefing Papers we had discussed a
while ago ca be very helpful).
Cheers
Mary
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From: Liz Gasster <liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx>
To:Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
CC:"'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'"
<gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx>, Glen de Saint Géry<Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 7/7/2011 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting
Team
Hi Adrian,
Thanks so much for the amplification. I find it very helpful, and I’m
excited by your ideas to engage the audience more! Best, Liz
From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 AM
To: Liz Gasster; john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'; Glen de Saint Géry
Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting
Team
Thanks Liz.
I suppose I see the public meetings more as an opportunity to engage
our audience. We cannot do this if we are constrained by the usual
practices of motions etc.
We have plenty of opportunity for these in our usual meetings.
Let’s not call it a Public Meeting at all and call it the GNSO update
and public forum.
I think the current public meeting has an identity crisis.
Why do let people interact with the Council. We don’t let them at any
other time during our usual meetings. Instead we do this “tacked on”
version where we ask for public comment randomly. The comment very
rarely helps with discussion and doesn’t drive any healthy debate.
The other point is that if you have motions you really constrain the
discussion to that topic. I’d prefer to provide a broad cross section of
discussion around the entire Council’s work.
With respect to transcription, once again I would ask why is it in
place? Do we transcribe all our other meetings? Why is this one so
special? I was thinking that if we move to a “workshop” style meeting
that the transcription simply woudln;t be necessary.
Once again, these are just my thoughts as I write (I am horribly
jetlagged and not sure I am making any sense whatsoever!).
Adrian Kinderis
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From: Liz Gasster [mailto:liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2011 12:20 PM
To: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Adrian Kinderis
Cc: 'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'; Glen de Saint Géry
Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting
Team
Hi all,
Glen is investigating why Adrian’s post did not go through (thanks John
for helping to identify this problem).
Adrian – I would find it helpful for you to expand a bit on why you
suggest that there not be a formal Council meeting, or motions, and that
these meetings not be transcribed. I do understand your point about the
need to facilitate greater community discussion during the public
meetings. Are you saying that you think not having a formal council
meeting (without motions or transcript) would help in that regard? Just
seeking to understand…
Thanks so much! Liz
Ps. I’m also curious about “interpretive dance” in this context but I
expect we’ll hear more on that! thanks again…
From: owner-gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:54 AM
To: Adrian Kinderis
Cc: 'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'; Glen de Saint Géry
Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting
Team
Yup.
Berard
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Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting
Team
From: Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, July 07, 2011 7:29 am
To: "'john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
'Glen_de_Saint_Géry' <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'"
<gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
Did everyone get this?
Adrian Kinderis
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From: Adrian Kinderis
Sent: Wednesday, 6 July 2011 11:41 PM
To: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Glen_de_Saint_Géry
Cc: gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting
Team
Here is a few quick bulletpointed points;
- The meeting should not be a formal Council meeting
o No motions
o It should not be transcribed
- The meeting could be more an update of the work that has
been/ is currently being completed since the last “public meeting”
- Comments from the floor should be solicited continually
through the meeting
- WG’s should be encouraged to present their current issues/
progress
o They could solicit Council/ public input to any obstacles etc
- Future motions could be discussed
o This is where the good debate happens
- A summary of the weekend sessions could be provided
- Perhaps each stakeholder group could perform a short summary
of who they are and what their current concerns are
Does that help start with the thoughts.
Not particularly sexy... but that will come in the way we go about
performing the above (interpretive dance?)
Thanks.
Adrian Kinderis
Chief Executive Officer
AusRegistry International Pty Ltd
Level 8, 10 Queens Road
Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004
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From: owner-gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2011 8:41 PM
To: Glen_de_Saint_Géry
Cc: gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting
Team
Hey!
Perhaps I can prime the pump by re-posting my initial thoughts when
this effort was suggested.
By "design," I was thinking of everything from the way we are arranged,
in relation to each other and the public participants to shifting the
organization of our work to get people to the mic earlier to using the
speed of a consensus agenda (as does the Board) to help prioritize in a
more responsive way.
Feel free to pile on!
Berard
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Subject: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
From: Glen_de_Saint_Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, June 23, 2011 6:17 pm
To: "gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx"
<gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
Dear All,
As agreed at the GNSO Council wrap-up meeting a small group has been
formed to revise the format of the open Council meetings.
The Open Council Meeting Drafting Team mailing list is up and running.
As requested, the following people have been added to the list:
Stéphane Van Gelder
Adrian Kinderis
Zahid Jamil"
William Drake
Mary Wong
Jeff Neuman
John Berard
Please let me know whether you would like to be added to the drafting
team.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat
gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://gnso.icann.org
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