Re: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

On the transcription issue, yes, all ours meetings are transcribed.

Stéphane



Le 8 juil. 2011 à 00:26, <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Thanks, Adrian, John and everyone, for getting us off to such a good start 
> with plenty of suggestions!
>  
> I like Adrian's idea of calling it the GNSO Public Forum, rather than the 
> Open Council Meeting. If we also incorporate some of the other excellent 
> suggestions, we may yet be able to increase audience participation and 
> engagement at the session. Hopefully this will not only provide the GNSO 
> community with an opportunity to give direct feedback and suggestions, it 
> will also allow the Council to interact directly with both active, regular 
> GNSO participants as well as newer entrants and other members of the ICANN 
> community outside the GNSO.
>  
> To that end, may I bring up a previous suggestion (I forget by who, sorry) 
> that we do a general Open Mic at the beginning of the meeting? This can 
> supplement the regular, shorter Open Mic minutes that Adrian has suggested 
> interspersing with the topical discussions throughout the meeting (on the 
> assumption that these other open mics will be geared more toward the specific 
> topic under discussion).
>  
> I also support Adrian's ideas that (1) we discuss future motions at the 
> Public Forum, and solicit feedback from the community; and (2) each SG/C (as 
> appropriate) give a short update (especially since the Public Forum will take 
> place after Constituency Day).
>  
> Additionally, I'd like to suggest that we invite, and actively seek the 
> participation of, other ICANN groups and participants. In particular, I think 
> it would be useful to extend a welcome to ICANN Fellows and other newbies 
> (and in this respect, the Briefing Papers we had discussed a while ago ca be 
> very helpful).
>  
> Cheers
> Mary  
> 
>  
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> From: Liz Gasster <liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx>
> To:   Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
> <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC:   "'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'" 
> <gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx>, Glen de Saint Géry<Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 7/7/2011 3:14 PM
> Subject:      RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
> Hi Adrian,
>  
> Thanks so much for the amplification.  I find it very helpful, and I’m 
> excited by your ideas to engage the audience more!  Best, Liz
>  
> From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 AM
> To: Liz Gasster; john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: 'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'; Glen de Saint Géry
> Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
>  
> Thanks Liz.
>  
> I suppose I see the public meetings more as an opportunity to engage our 
> audience. We cannot do this if we are constrained by the usual practices of 
> motions etc.
>  
> We have plenty of opportunity for these in our usual meetings.
>  
> Let’s not call it a Public Meeting at all and call it the GNSO update and 
> public forum.
>  
> I think the current public meeting has an identity crisis.
>  
> Why do let people interact with the Council. We don’t let them at any other 
> time during our usual meetings. Instead we do this “tacked on” version where 
> we ask for public comment randomly. The comment very rarely helps with 
> discussion and doesn’t drive any healthy debate.
>  
> The other point is that if you have motions you really constrain the 
> discussion to that topic. I’d prefer to provide a broad cross section of 
> discussion around the entire Council’s work.
>  
> With respect to transcription, once again I would ask why is it in place? Do 
> we transcribe all our other meetings? Why is this one so special? I was 
> thinking that if we move to a “workshop” style meeting that the transcription 
> simply woudln;t be necessary.
>  
> Once again, these are just my thoughts as I write (I am horribly jetlagged 
> and not sure I am making any sense whatsoever!).
>  
> Adrian Kinderis
> Chief Executive Officer
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> From: Liz Gasster [mailto:liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2011 12:20 PM
> To: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Adrian Kinderis
> Cc: 'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'; Glen de Saint Géry
> Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> Glen is investigating why Adrian’s post did not go through (thanks John for 
> helping to identify this problem).
>  
> Adrian – I would find it helpful for you to expand a bit on why you suggest 
> that there not be a formal Council meeting, or motions, and that these 
> meetings not be transcribed.  I do understand your point about the need to 
> facilitate greater community discussion during the public meetings.  Are you 
> saying that you think not having a formal council meeting (without motions or 
> transcript) would help in that regard?  Just seeking to understand…
>  
> Thanks so much!  Liz
>  
> Ps. I’m also curious about “interpretive dance” in this context but I expect 
> we’ll hear more on that!  thanks again…
>  
>  
> From: owner-gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:54 AM
> To: Adrian Kinderis
> Cc: 'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'; Glen de Saint Géry
> Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
>  
> Yup.
>  
> Berard
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> Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting
> Team
> From: Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, July 07, 2011 7:29 am
> To: "'john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> 'Glen_de_Saint_Géry' <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "'gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx'"
> <gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Did everyone get this?
>  
> Adrian Kinderis
> Chief Executive Officer
> AusRegistry International Pty Ltd
> Level 8, 10 Queens Road
> Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004
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> Fax: +61 3 9866 1970
> Email: adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> From: Adrian Kinderis 
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 July 2011 11:41 PM
> To: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Glen_de_Saint_Géry
> Cc: gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
>  
> Here is a few quick bulletpointed points;
>  
> -          The meeting should not be a formal Council meeting
> o    No motions
> o    It should not be transcribed
> -          The meeting could be more an update of the work that has been/ is 
> currently being completed since the last “public meeting”
> -          Comments from the floor should be solicited continually through 
> the meeting
> -          WG’s should be encouraged to present their current issues/ progress
> o    They could solicit Council/ public input to any obstacles etc
> -          Future motions could be discussed
> o    This is where the good debate happens
> -          A summary of the weekend sessions could be provided
> -          Perhaps each stakeholder group could perform a short summary of 
> who they are and what their current concerns are
>  
> Does that help start with the thoughts.
>  
> Not particularly sexy... but that will come in the way we go about performing 
> the above (interpretive dance?)
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Adrian Kinderis
> Chief Executive Officer
> AusRegistry International Pty Ltd
> Level 8, 10 Queens Road
> Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004
> Ph: +61 3 9866 3710
> Fax: +61 3 9866 1970
> Email: adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> From: owner-gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2011 8:41 PM
> To: Glen_de_Saint_Géry
> Cc: gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
>  
> Hey!
>  
> Perhaps I can prime the pump by re-posting my initial thoughts when this 
> effort was suggested.
>  
> By "design," I was thinking of everything from the way we are arranged, in 
> relation to each other and the public participants to shifting the 
> organization of our work to get people to the mic earlier to using the speed 
> of a consensus agenda (as does the Board) to help prioritize in a more 
> responsive way.
>  
> Feel free to pile on!
>  
> Berard
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> Subject: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
> From: Glen_de_Saint_Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, June 23, 2011 6:17 pm
> To: "gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx"
> <gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> 
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> As agreed at the GNSO Council wrap-up meeting a small group has been formed 
> to revise the format of the open Council meetings. 
> The Open Council Meeting Drafting Team mailing list is up and running.
> 
> As requested, the following people have been added to the list:
> 
> Stéphane Van Gelder
> Adrian Kinderis
> Zahid Jamil" 
> William Drake
> Mary Wong
> Jeff Neuman
> John Berard
> 
> Please let me know whether you would like to be added to the drafting team.
> Thank you.
> Kind regards,
> 
> Glen
> 
> Glen de Saint Géry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://gnso.icann.org
>