Re: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team

[Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>]

If you are going into the direction of a Public Forum, you might also want to 
consider soliciting topics from SG/Constituencies/ICANN Community prior to the 
meeting, so that the agenda can be build up around the topics suggested. If the 
topics suggested relate to ongoing projects, the agenda item could be kicked 
off by a short update from the project leader or staff so that everyone is 
aware what the issue is about, followed by open discussion, which could also 
include discussion of motions if any are being considered in relation to the 
issue.

Best regards,

Marika

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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:26:02 -0700
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Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team

Thanks, Adrian, John and everyone, for getting us off to such a good start with 
plenty of suggestions!

I like Adrian's idea of calling it the GNSO Public Forum, rather than the Open 
Council Meeting. If we also incorporate some of the other excellent 
suggestions, we may yet be able to increase audience participation and 
engagement at the session. Hopefully this will not only provide the GNSO 
community with an opportunity to give direct feedback and suggestions, it will 
also allow the Council to interact directly with both active, regular GNSO 
participants as well as newer entrants and other members of the ICANN community 
outside the GNSO.

To that end, may I bring up a previous suggestion (I forget by who, sorry) that 
we do a general Open Mic at the beginning of the meeting? This can supplement 
the regular, shorter Open Mic minutes that Adrian has suggested interspersing 
with the topical discussions throughout the meeting (on the assumption that 
these other open mics will be geared more toward the specific topic under 
discussion).

I also support Adrian's ideas that (1) we discuss future motions at the Public 
Forum, and solicit feedback from the community; and (2) each SG/C (as 
appropriate) give a short update (especially since the Public Forum will take 
place after Constituency Day).

Additionally, I'd like to suggest that we invite, and actively seek the 
participation of, other ICANN groups and participants. In particular, I think 
it would be useful to extend a welcome to ICANN Fellows and other newbies (and 
in this respect, the Briefing Papers we had discussed a while ago ca be very 
helpful).

Cheers
Mary


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From:   Liz Gasster <liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx>>
To:     Adrian Kinderis 
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Date:   7/7/2011 3:14 PM
Subject:        RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team
Hi Adrian,

Thanks so much for the amplification.  I find it very helpful, and I’m excited 
by your ideas to engage the audience more!  Best, Liz

From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 AM
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Glen de Saint Géry
Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team

Thanks Liz.

I suppose I see the public meetings more as an opportunity to engage our 
audience. We cannot do this if we are constrained by the usual practices of 
motions etc.

We have plenty of opportunity for these in our usual meetings.

Let’s not call it a Public Meeting at all and call it the GNSO update and 
public forum.

I think the current public meeting has an identity crisis.

Why do let people interact with the Council. We don’t let them at any other 
time during our usual meetings. Instead we do this “tacked on” version where we 
ask for public comment randomly. The comment very rarely helps with discussion 
and doesn’t drive any healthy debate.

The other point is that if you have motions you really constrain the discussion 
to that topic. I’d prefer to provide a broad cross section of discussion around 
the entire Council’s work.

With respect to transcription, once again I would ask why is it in place? Do we 
transcribe all our other meetings? Why is this one so special? I was thinking 
that if we move to a “workshop” style meeting that the transcription simply 
woudln;t be necessary.

Once again, these are just my thoughts as I write (I am horribly jetlagged and 
not sure I am making any sense whatsoever!).

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From: Liz Gasster [mailto:liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2011 12:20 PM
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Glen de Saint Géry
Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team

Hi all,

Glen is investigating why Adrian’s post did not go through (thanks John for 
helping to identify this problem).

Adrian – I would find it helpful for you to expand a bit on why you suggest 
that there not be a formal Council meeting, or motions, and that these meetings 
not be transcribed.  I do understand your point about the need to facilitate 
greater community discussion during the public meetings.  Are you saying that 
you think not having a formal council meeting (without motions or transcript) 
would help in that regard?  Just seeking to understand…

Thanks so much!  Liz

Ps. I’m also curious about “interpretive dance” in this context but I expect 
we’ll hear more on that!  thanks again…


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Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team

Yup.

Berard
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Did everyone get this?

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Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team

Here is a few quick bulletpointed points;

-          The meeting should not be a formal Council meeting
o    No motions
o    It should not be transcribed
-          The meeting could be more an update of the work that has been/ is 
currently being completed since the last “public meeting”
-          Comments from the floor should be solicited continually through the 
meeting
-          WG’s should be encouraged to present their current issues/ progress
o    They could solicit Council/ public input to any obstacles etc
-          Future motions could be discussed
o    This is where the good debate happens
-          A summary of the weekend sessions could be provided
-          Perhaps each stakeholder group could perform a short summary of who 
they are and what their current concerns are

Does that help start with the thoughts.

Not particularly sexy... but that will come in the way we go about performing 
the above (interpretive dance?)

Thanks.

Adrian Kinderis
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Subject: RE: [gnso-opencouncilmtg-dt] Open Council Meeting Drafting Team

Hey!

Perhaps I can prime the pump by re-posting my initial thoughts when this effort 
was suggested.

By "design," I was thinking of everything from the way we are arranged, in 
relation to each other and the public participants to shifting the organization 
of our work to get people to the mic earlier to using the speed of a consensus 
agenda (as does the Board) to help prioritize in a more responsive way.

Feel free to pile on!

Berard
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Dear All,

As agreed at the GNSO Council wrap-up meeting a small group has been formed to 
revise the format of the open Council meetings.
The Open Council Meeting Drafting Team mailing list is up and running.

As requested, the following people have been added to the list:

Stéphane Van Gelder
Adrian Kinderis
Zahid Jamil"
William Drake
Mary Wong
Jeff Neuman
John Berard

Please let me know whether you would like to be added to the drafting team.
Thank you.
Kind regards,

Glen

Glen de Saint Géry
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