RE: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Don't we have a call this week?  Tomorrow?
 
Chuck


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        From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudio Di Gangi
        Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:50 PM
        To: 'Olga Cavalli'
        Cc: SS Kshatriy; rafik dammak; Victoria McEvedy;
gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting
        
        

        Yes, I will try to get back to SS at least a few days prior to
our call next week.

         

        Claudio

         

        
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        From: olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
        Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:28 PM
        To: Claudio Di Gangi
        Cc: SS Kshatriy; rafik dammak; Victoria McEvedy;
gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting

         

        Thanks Claudio for the clarification.
        Any of your comments to the remarks done by SS could be very
useful.
        Best regards
        Olga

        2009/6/25 Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi@xxxxxxxx>

        
        Sorry for not updating the group about that SS.
        
        It was my oversight!
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        From: SS Kshatriy [sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:43 PM
        To: Claudio Di Gangi; rafik dammak; Victoria McEvedy
        Cc: gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting

        
        Dear Claudio Di Gangi,
        Refrerence to the meeting minutes and your remarks:
        "Claudio DiGangi noted that, with respect to Task 1, Subtask 1,
he was unaware of any updates from the subtask leader, S.S."
        
        I will invite your attention to my mail of May 11 to subtask 1
participants that is copied below. You are requested to respond to my
mail.
        --
        I had posted updates on May 26. You would have just received the
latest updates too. I will request your remarks and participation.
        regards,
        SS
        
        
        --- On Mon, 5/11/09, SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
        
        From: SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [gnso-osc-csg] ACTION ITEMS: OSC-Constituency
Operations Work Team-Subtask1
        To: "Claudio Di Gangi" <CDiGangi@xxxxxxxx>, "rafik dammak"
<rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>, "Victoria McEvedy" <victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>
        Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 1:21 AM
        
        Dear Participants,
        
        Subject-- Completing of Action Items for Subtask 1
        
        I have gone through the analysis of Constituenccies by Julie. As
a premiliminary step, I have further analysed Subtask 1.2 in detail for
two action itmes. This analysis is given below my signature.
        1. Please give your ideas how to proceed with the completion of
action items?
        2. Reference to Draft Work Plan, is there any clash/lconflict
between Subtask 1.2 and Subtask 2.1?
        
        I will look forward to your input.
        regards,
        SS
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        Subtask 1.2     Develop guidelines, rules, or principles for
participation in constituencies.
        
        Only two criteria are analyzed here:
        a.         Bringing out a Motion on Policy Issues and
        b.         Elections.
        
        1. Commercial and Business Constituency have in their charter
http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/recertification-bc-constituency-ja
n09.pdf :
        a. Procedure for developing written policy by bringing out a
motion on policy issue by appointed 'Rapporteurs'. There is passing
reference that any member can propose a position paper. But there is no
procedure for this.
        It needs to be elaborated and clear rules laid down.
        
        b. There are clear rules for Election of Officers for
representation in GNSO but it lacks proper management. Management of the
Constituency is governed by:                     section 4.2 'Officers
and 4.3 Secretariat'. It is a surprising that election is done for GNSO
Council and such councilors become Officers of the Constituency to run
and manage the organization. It should have been otherwise. Assume a
typical situation when due to any reason, Constituency has no
representation in GNSO Council. It will then be left with no management.
Ideal situation should be that there is a well managed Organization that
has representation in GNSO Council and other bodies.
        Hence provision for regular management body, independent of GNSO
representation should exist.
        
        2. Registries (gTLD) have 'Articles of Operation'
http://www.gtldregistries.org/about_us/articles , which has clear and
elaborate rules for:
        a. Bringing out a motion for decision making on an issue and
        b. Election of officers.
        
        3. Internet Service Provider & Connectivity Provider
Constituency (ISPCP)
http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/recertification-ispcp-04feb09.pdf
have called their submission a Charter.
        
        a. Section 3.1 'Decision Making Processes in the ISPCP' needs
strengthening and elaborating.
        It should have provisions for Constituency Members to raise
issues and carry out motions.
        b. It has procedures for elections.
        c. There is no proper Charter. Above referred document is a
submission for Constituency Renewal. There is no link for any Charter
Document in the ISPCP's Website and as such, it is not a public
document.
        The Constituency should have proper Charter or Byelaws.
        
        4. Non-Commercial User's Constituency
http://ncuc.syr.edu/current_charter.htm
        
        a. There is no provision for members to raise issues. Changes in
Charter alone can be brought about. This needs to be incorporated in the
charter.
        Section IX Communication needs to be strengthened for this
purpose.
        b. Charter has well laid out procedure for elections.
        
        5. Registrars Constituency
http://www.icannregistrars.org/RC_Bylaws  and
http://www.icannregistrars.org/Registrar_Constituency_Rules_of_Procedure
        The Constituency has good rules for:
        a. Bringing out a motion for decision making on an issue and
        b. Election of officers.
        
        6. Intellectual Property Constituency
http://www.ipconstituency.org/bylaws.htm
        The Constituency has good rules for:
        a. Bringing out a motion for decision making on an issue.
However, there is no provision at all for the members belonging to
Category 1A and 1B to participate in the affairs of the Constituency or
for them to be heard.
        There should be some provision for such members for
participation.
        b. Good rules for election of officers.
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        -- 
        Olga Cavalli, Dr. Ing.
        www.south-ssig.com.ar