RE: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting

["Julie Hedlund" <jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chuck,

The next call is scheduled for Friday, 10 July at at 13:00 UTC (06:00 PDT).
I'll send you via separate email the notice that Gisella sent out.  So, no
meeting tomorrow on our U.S. holiday.

Have a great weekend!

Julie
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
  Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:41 PM
  To: Claudio Di Gangi; Olga Cavalli
  Cc: SS Kshatriy; rafik dammak; Victoria McEvedy; gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
  Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting


  Don't we have a call this week?  Tomorrow?

  Chuck



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    From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Claudio Di Gangi
    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:50 PM
    To: 'Olga Cavalli'
    Cc: SS Kshatriy; rafik dammak; Victoria McEvedy; gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
    Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting


    Yes, I will try to get back to SS at least a few days prior to our call
next week.



    Claudio




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    From: olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Olga Cavalli
    Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:28 PM
    To: Claudio Di Gangi
    Cc: SS Kshatriy; rafik dammak; Victoria McEvedy; gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting



    Thanks Claudio for the clarification.
    Any of your comments to the remarks done by SS could be very useful.
    Best regards
    Olga

    2009/6/25 Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi@xxxxxxxx>


    Sorry for not updating the group about that SS.

    It was my oversight!
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    From: SS Kshatriy [sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx]
    Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:43 PM
    To: Claudio Di Gangi; rafik dammak; Victoria McEvedy
    Cc: gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] MEETING MINUTES: June 21 meeting


    Dear Claudio Di Gangi,
    Refrerence to the meeting minutes and your remarks:
    "Claudio DiGangi noted that, with respect to Task 1, Subtask 1, he was
unaware of any updates from the subtask leader, S.S."

    I will invite your attention to my mail of May 11 to subtask 1
participants that is copied below. You are requested to respond to my mail.
    --
    I had posted updates on May 26. You would have just received the latest
updates too. I will request your remarks and participation.
    regards,
    SS


    --- On Mon, 5/11/09, SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    From: SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>
    Subject: [gnso-osc-csg] ACTION ITEMS: OSC-Constituency Operations Work
Team-Subtask1
    To: "Claudio Di Gangi" <CDiGangi@xxxxxxxx>, "rafik dammak"
<rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>, "Victoria McEvedy" <victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>
    Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 1:21 AM

    Dear Participants,

    Subject-- Completing of Action Items for Subtask 1

    I have gone through the analysis of Constituenccies by Julie. As a
premiliminary step, I have further analysed Subtask 1.2 in detail for two
action itmes. This analysis is given below my signature.
    1. Please give your ideas how to proceed with the completion of action
items?
    2. Reference to Draft Work Plan, is there any clash/lconflict between
Subtask 1.2 and Subtask 2.1?

    I will look forward to your input.
    regards,
    SS
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    Subtask 1.2     Develop guidelines, rules, or principles for
participation in constituencies.

    Only two criteria are analyzed here:
    a.         Bringing out a Motion on Policy Issues and
    b.         Elections.

    1. Commercial and Business Constituency have in their charter
http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/recertification-bc-constituency-jan09.
pdf :
    a. Procedure for developing written policy by bringing out a motion on
policy issue by appointed 'Rapporteurs'. There is passing reference that any
member can propose a position paper. But there is no procedure for this.
    It needs to be elaborated and clear rules laid down.

    b. There are clear rules for Election of Officers for representation in
GNSO but it lacks proper management. Management of the Constituency is
governed by:                     section 4.2 'Officers and 4.3 Secretariat'.
It is a surprising that election is done for GNSO Council and such
councilors become Officers of the Constituency to run and manage the
organization. It should have been otherwise. Assume a typical situation when
due to any reason, Constituency has no representation in GNSO Council. It
will then be left with no management. Ideal situation should be that there
is a well managed Organization that has representation in GNSO Council and
other bodies.
    Hence provision for regular management body, independent of GNSO
representation should exist.

    2. Registries (gTLD) have 'Articles of Operation'
http://www.gtldregistries.org/about_us/articles , which has clear and
elaborate rules for:
    a. Bringing out a motion for decision making on an issue and
    b. Election of officers.

    3. Internet Service Provider & Connectivity Provider Constituency
(ISPCP)
http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/recertification-ispcp-04feb09.pdf
have called their submission a Charter.

    a. Section 3.1 'Decision Making Processes in the ISPCP' needs
strengthening and elaborating.
    It should have provisions for Constituency Members to raise issues and
carry out motions.
    b. It has procedures for elections.
    c. There is no proper Charter. Above referred document is a submission
for Constituency Renewal. There is no link for any Charter Document in the
ISPCP's Website and as such, it is not a public document.
    The Constituency should have proper Charter or Byelaws.

    4. Non-Commercial User's Constituency
http://ncuc.syr.edu/current_charter.htm

    a. There is no provision for members to raise issues. Changes in Charter
alone can be brought about. This needs to be incorporated in the charter.
    Section IX Communication needs to be strengthened for this purpose.
    b. Charter has well laid out procedure for elections.

    5. Registrars Constituency http://www.icannregistrars.org/RC_Bylaws  and
http://www.icannregistrars.org/Registrar_Constituency_Rules_of_Procedure
    The Constituency has good rules for:
    a. Bringing out a motion for decision making on an issue and
    b. Election of officers.

    6. Intellectual Property Constituency
http://www.ipconstituency.org/bylaws.htm
    The Constituency has good rules for:
    a. Bringing out a motion for decision making on an issue. However, there
is no provision at all for the members belonging to Category 1A and 1B to
participate in the affairs of the Constituency or for them to be heard.
    There should be some provision for such members for participation.
    b. Good rules for election of officers.
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