RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] two real-world examples of PEDNR problems

["Berry Cobb" <berrycobb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Team,

 

The article has nothing to do with cybersquatting.....It’s clear the author is 
not entirely informed, nor the people interviewed.

 

 

Latest Whois information......

 DUANPHEN SINGHAPHAN

   36 Nimmanhamin Rd. Suthep

   Muang, Chiangmai 50200

   Thailand

 

·         ENOM Registrar from 2001-2007 (regiSTAR.com was reseller)

 

·         created 11/26/2001 – City listed as Registrant

·         renewed 2002

·         gap in record to 2005 same Registrant in Jan 2005 (assume renewal in 
2003 & 2004 b/c same registrant in 2005)

·         renewed 2005

·         renewed 2006

·         between Dec 2006 & Feb 2008 - domain transferred to Godaddy

·         renewed 2007

·         renewed 2008

·         11/26/2009 - domain expired

·         11/28/2009 - whois shows domain expired (David Sexton as Registrant 
with email of premierquest@xxxxxxxxx  <---hosting provider)

·         12/22/2009 - no change to whois, shows expired.

·         12/27/2009 - no change to whois, shows expired.

·         12/30/2009 - no change to whois, shows expired.

·         01/09/2010 - DUANPHEN SINGHAPHAN takes possession  (*** I cannot 
determine how the domain was sold...assume auction or perhaps drop or back 
order.)

 

 

Additional Background:

http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-name-expires-city-believes-cyber-squatter-stole-it-1287

 

 

Overall, I agree with Elliot's comments.  I too feel bad for the city.  I would 
wonder if there is some sort of recourse against pqisp.com.

 

Regardless, the only way to get the domain back would be to buy it back.

 

 

Berry A. Cobb

Infinity Portals LLC

866.921.8891

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of James M. Bladel
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 20:11
To: Tim Ruiz
Cc: PEDNR; Mike O'Connor
Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] two real-world examples of PEDNR problems

 

 

Agree.

 

The first case presents a concrete example where an RAE missed more than

"adequate opportunity" to renew and redeem an expired name.  And the

second is a good example of an auction service protecting & preserving

rights of the RAE to redeem.

 

J.

 

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] two real-world examples of PEDNR problems

From: "Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Sat, January 16, 2010 12:17 pm

To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>

Cc: "PEDNR" <gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>

 

 

Not sure thee are PEDNR type problems Mike. In the first case it looks

like the name went all the way the through the renew grace period and

redemption grace period before they woke up. If someone ignores or

doesn't renew until the name becomes available again, that's a different

issue.

 

In the second case, SnapNames' process worked for the RAE. When they

realized it had expired they were able to renew and recover the name. So

no recovery problem there, right?

 

Tim 

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: [gnso-pednr-dt] two real-world examples of PEDNR problems

From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Sat, January 16, 2010 9:58 am

To: PEDNR <gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>

 

 

funny how you get "attuned" to things when you're working on them. here

are a couple of real-life examples.

 

this first one is a great example of the degree of confusion that

exists. the city of Morehead, Kentucky lost their domain on the drop --

and they're accusing the buyer of cyber-squatting. 

 

http://www.themoreheadnews.com/local/local_story_015125424.html

 

in a second example, the domain kat.com was pulled from a SnapNames

auction -- bidding had reached $20k. i'm guessing here -- i bet the RAE

woke up and got their name renewed post-expiry, thus short-circuiting

the auction.

 

http://www.thedomains.com/2010/01/15/kat-com-is-pulled-out-of-snapnames-com-monthly-auction-with-a-high-bid-of-almost-20k/

 

food for thought.

 

mikey

 

 

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