RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Mikey's wish lists

[Jeff Eckhaus <eckhaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have been sorting through this chain of emails and have a few questions on 
the proposals/wish list.



*         Is there really a suggestion that as a Registrar we ask/require our 
customers for a secondary email address so we can send them notifications?

*         There is a suggestion that Registrars/Resellers provide the email 
address where they are sending from in advance. Do we have any evidence of 
renewal notices being caught in spam filters? I just do not want to propose a 
solution for a problem that does not really exist.

*         Does this group think that a change in the Whois will benefit the 
registrants who do not renew their domain name? Will that provide adequate 
notice? I am also trying to figure out what a change in the whois will solve.

*         Is "Providing plain language versions of various policy statements" 
within scope of this group?



I am asking these in advance of tomorrow so we do not get bogged down 
discussing these items from the wishlist if they are not pertinent or valid. 
Basically if they are just a wishlist and nothing more.



Thanks





Jeff













-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:30 PM
To: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
Cc: PEDNR
Subject: Re: [gnso-pednr-dt] Mikey's wish lists





At 06/02/2010 11:48 PM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:

>On 7 Feb 2010, at 04:02, Alan Greenberg wrote:

> > At 05/02/2010 01:05 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:

> >

> > When a domain name is registered, there are no flags in WHOIS

> saying how the name is going to be used. As we go into more

> sophisticated situations of systems interacting with each other,

> often without human intermediaries, we need to get out of the mode

> that assumes that the web and port 80 is the only thing that matters.

>

>Totally agreed, but there's no way for anyone to really know what a

>domain is going to be used for either ...



That was my point. Our "solutions" to expiration problems should work

for the web or e-mail, but should not presume them.





> > A better solution would be to insist that at least one of the

> contact e-mail addresses must use a domain name different from the

> one being registered. With today's availability of free reliable

> addresses, there is little reason not to do this.

>

>The problem with that is that people tend to not check the accounts either

>

>We get complaints from people who expected us to "magically" know

>that they had either:

>- changed their email address

>

>OR

>

>- were using a specific email address which they'd setup with us

>

>Of course they didn't actually tell us that they'd done either of course ..



Inderstood. The suggestion to get (for instance) a gnamil account

should be accompanied by a description (or poiter to one) of how to

get typical e-mail clients to check the new mailbox automatically.



But ultimately, we should put in place solutions that are practical,

but we cannot protect everyone from their own stupidity.



> >> Provide consistent and informative domain-status flags across

> registries, registrars and TLDs

> >

> > Hard to argue with. But once you say TLDs vs gTLDs, it is not

> likely to be more than a pipe-dream and certainly not easy.

>

>In order to preserve sanity gTLDs only please



Sanity notwithstanding, as a GNSO PDP WG we have no standing to

impact ccTLDs, and for that matter, as ICANN, we have no standing to

impact ccTLDs within the scope of expiration issues.



Not to say that (with sufficient arrogance) we could not come up with

suggested best practices for them.  But probably not on my watch!  ;-)



Alan





>

>

>Regards

>

>Michele

>

>

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