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[FWD: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Renewal Rates & Grace Periods]
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- Subject: [FWD: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Renewal Rates & Grace Periods]
- From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 06:13:32 -0700
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font-size:10pt;"><div>Sorry, I had intended for this to go out to the group
list.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks--<br></div><div><br></div><div>J.</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Renewal Rates & Grace Periods<br>
From: "James M. Bladel" <<a
href="mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Date: Wed, December 08, 2010 6:11 am<br>
To: "Alan Greenberg" <<a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx";>alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
10pt;"><div>Alan:<br><br><span>I would caution against drawing your first
and last conclusions. My data request focused on the time period -after-
expiry, so it is not clear what periods well before (e.g. months or weeks) or
well after (redemption) are not covered by this data. It is very likely that
large portions are not accounted for by this
sample.<br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Similarly, I was
not specific about normalizing renewal behavior for names that "went dark" or
were kept active (perhaps by other products). It is possible that an
associate service renewed even earlier (e.g. the previous month(s)), or expired
separately. <br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>We are
looking at a very narrow question here (use of renewal grace periods), and
trying to read more in to this data is speculation The bigger picture is
more complicated, involves additional factors, and is probably one reason why
registrars are uncomfortable publicizing data
"snapshots."<br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>J.<br></div><div><br></div>
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From: Alan Greenberg <<a target="_blank"
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx";>alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Date: Tue, December 07, 2010 11:33 pm<br> To: "James M. Bladel" <<a
target="_blank"
href="mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br> <br> James, I
would like to make sure I understand these stats. To take <br> May as an
example, the way I read this (rounding to nearest percent):<br> <br> - 32% of
expiring domains are renewed prior to or on the expiration <br> date. Therefore
68% of expiring names are NOT renewed prior to on <br> expiration. I find that
disturbingly high.<br> <br> - An additional 25% are renewed the next day. My
recollection is that <br> it is GoDaddy practice to to redirect the web site at
either day 3 or <br> 5, so this is before it stops working as before
expiration.<br> <br> - only 4% are renewed just before and for several days
after the <br> domain is redirected.<br> <br> - The numbers add up to 63.5, so
36% of expiring domains were not renewed.<br> <br> Am I reading this
correctly?<br> <br> At 08/12/2010 12:02 AM, James M. Bladel wrote:<br>
>Team:<br> ><br> >Sorry I cannot join you tomorrow morning, but I have
a previous <br> >commitment to the DNSSEC event.<br> ><br> >After some
discussions this weekend, I spoke with our internal stats <br> >team and
requested six months' data on renewal activity for <br> >gTLDs. Renewals
were bucket-sorted by post-expiry time (<0 days, 1 <br> >day, 2-10 days,
11-30 days, and 30+ days). The percentages are listed below.<br> ><br>
><br> >(NOTE: I am not authorized to release raw numbers, but the average
<br> >monthly renewals for this period was more than 2.5 million domain
names.)<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> >This data indicates that a
significant portion of names renew either <br> >before, upon, or within 1
day of expiration. Also noteworthy is the <br> >significant drop off in
renewal activity after Day 2. Finally, it <br> >is clear that renewals are
rare beyond the 10th day.<br> ><br> >In an earlier conversation, some of
us (myself included) speculated <br> >that we might be "chasing the tail" of
renewal activity for periods <br> >longer than 5 or 10 days. But even I was
surprised at the <br> >substantial lack of renewal activity only a few days
past expiration.<br> ><br> >Therefore, I submit to the team that the
benefits of a longer grace <br> >period (>10 days) are negligible, and do
not warrant the disruption <br> >to existing business practices and industry
expectations.<br> ><br> >Thanks--<br> ><br> >J.<br> ><br>
><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> <br> </div> </blockquote></span>
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