RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Post expiration renewal stats

["Michael Young" <myoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Alan, 

I'm not sure why having that data from other registrars is a reasonable ask.
I think its unusually generous that Go-Daddy shared this(thanks very much
James) and I have to think it was really intended to support the discussion
around what would be an effective length for the new grace period.

This data implies strongly that 10 days is going to capture almost all the
renewal stragglers. 

Let's focus this discussion towards the recommendations rather than start
new research projects this late in the WG process.

Michael Young

M:+1-647-289-1220


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: December-08-10 12:41 AM
To: PEDNR
Subject: [gnso-pednr-dt] Post expiration renewal stats


As a follow-on to James' numbers, it would be useful to see the patterns
from other registrars. Due to different customer bases and pre-expiration
notifications, they could be substantially different.

What would be most useful would be:

- percentage of expiring gTLD domains that are renewed prior to expiration
- percentage that are renewed on each of day 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
- percentage that are renewed during days 11-15, 16-20, 21-25 and 26-30.
- indication of which day the domain is re-directed to the parking site.

I (and potentially one or two other WG members would be prepared to sign
non-disclosure agreements if you do not want to make the information public.
I would presume that Marika could also be copied on any such data.

Can any other registrars help?

Alan

At 08/12/2010 12:02 AM, you wrote:
>Team:
>
>Sorry I cannot join you tomorrow morning, but I have a previous 
>commitment to the DNSSEC event.
>
>After some discussions this weekend, I spoke with our internal stats 
>team and requested six months' data on renewal activity for gTLDs.  
>Renewals were bucket-sorted by post-expiry time (<0 days, 1 day, 2-10 
>days, 11-30 days, and 30+ days).  The percentages are listed below.
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>(NOTE:  I am not authorized to release raw numbers, but the average 
>monthly renewals for this period was more than 2.5 million domain 
>names.)
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>This data indicates that a significant portion of names renew either 
>before, upon, or within 1 day of expiration.  Also noteworthy is the 
>significant drop off in renewal activity after Day 2.  Finally, it is 
>clear that renewals are rare beyond the 10th day.
>
>In an earlier conversation, some of us (myself included) speculated 
>that we might be "chasing the tail" of renewal activity for periods 
>longer than 5 or 10 days.  But even I was surprised at the substantial 
>lack of renewal activity only a few days past expiration.
>
>Therefore, I submit to the team that the benefits of a longer grace 
>period (>10 days) are negligible, and do not warrant the disruption to 
>existing business practices and industry expectations.
>
>Thanks--
>
>J.
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