Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] Recap of meeting & items for review

[Holly Raiche <h.raiche@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

First of all - thank you Mikey for the mind map.  I think it does capture some 
of the issues that should be addressed.

And while I am fully aware of the fact that all we are doing is developing a 
charter - it will be the actual WG that does the hard yakka - we need to 
develop a charter that does ensure all the issues that need to be addressed are 
there.

As Mikey points out (and as is reflected in the Framework document - and 
comments made for the Beijing meeting) we need to work through what we mean by 
'policy' as well as when we need to go beyond the GNSO and/or ICANN staff, 
because other stakeholders will be impacted.  And Mikey - this is nicely 
captured in your mind map. 

So keep the conversations going.  We are responsible for the development of a 
charter that does ask the hard questions.

Talk to everyone soon.

Holly


On 16/06/2013, at 7:39 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:

> hi Tim,
> 
> the reason i threw that question about GNSO-only is because some of the 
> issues that are being raised, for which "policy vs implementation" decisions 
> need to be made, are coming from outside the GNSO.  a couple examples come to 
> mind -- SAC45 from the SSAC and the GAC Advice from Beijing.  i would think 
> both of those would in a perfect world get run through the policy vs. 
> implementation decision making process.  i'm fine developing a charter for a 
> GNSO working group, but maybe we at least ought to write into the charter a 
> recommendation that the WG make a concentrated effort to recruit reps from 
> the other AC/SOs for their work. 
> 
> good catch on my "problems to be solved" wording.  let me clarify.  i mean 
> those as the puzzles that the WG has to solve, not us.  i'm hoping to see a 
> list that looks something like that in the Mission part of the charter.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> mikey
> 
> 
> On Jun 15, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> We are a GNSO DT, not a cross SO DT (thank God), so we should consider that 
>> what we do applies only to the GNSO WG that follows.
>> 
>> Regarding your problems to be solved, are those problems that you feel we 
>> need to solve or that the WG that follows needs to solve? We are only tasked 
>> with drafting the charter.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 15, 2013, at 12:20 PM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> hi all,
>>> 
>>> great discussion so far.  here's my contribution.
>>> 
>>> i took the liberty of redrawing Marika's diagram.  no, this is *not* going 
>>> in the charter, it's just a thought exercise to help me frame my charter 
>>> questions, but i thought it might be useful for the discussion we're 
>>> having.  what follows are some ideas and questions for our charter that 
>>> fell out of that exercise.  i've left a lot of them out because Jordyn and 
>>> Chuck got off the mark a little quicker than i did and covered much of what 
>>> i was thinking about. 
>>> 
>>> Mission
>>> 
>>> Problems to be solved:  
>>> 
>>> - Define the mechanism by which "policy vs implementation" questions are 
>>> identified 
>>> - during implementation efforts
>>> - prior to implementation
>>> - Define the criteria used to determine the difference between policy and 
>>> implementation issues
>>> - Define the options available for policy and implementation efforts and 
>>> criteria for determining which should be used
>>> - Define who makes those determinations and how
>>> - Define who reviews and approves those decisions and how
>>> - Describe the process by which this identification, analysis, review and 
>>> approval work is done
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Scope
>>> 
>>> - The work of this group
>>> Choice a) only applies to the GNSO?
>>> Choice b) applies to all ICANN AC/SOs?
>>> 
>>> - If the choice is "all AC/SOs" does this fall into the cross-constituency 
>>> WG arena?  do different chartering/operating rules apply to the WG?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> mikey
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <Policy vs Implementation v2.pdf>
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you very much for joining the first meeting of the Policy & 
>>>> Implementation Drafting Team. As a short recap of the meeting and follow 
>>>> up on action items:
>>>> For those of you that were not able to attend the first meeting, please 
>>>> feel free to share a few words of introduction with the mailing list.
>>>> Holly Raiche has volunteered to serve as a the Chair for this Drafting 
>>>> Team and has received the support of those that were on the call. If there 
>>>> are any other candidates that would like to be considered for this post, 
>>>> or any statements of support / objections, please share those with the 
>>>> mailing list ahead of the next meeting. 
>>>> As discussed, please find attached a first draft of the charter template, 
>>>> following the model of other charters as well as the information contained 
>>>> in the call for volunteers. You are encouraged to share your comments 
>>>> and/or edits with the mailing list ahead of the next meeting.
>>>> For those interested to review some other recent GNSO charters, please 
>>>> see: 'thick' Whois PDP WG Charter (https://community.icann.org/x/vIg3Ag),  
>>>> IGO/INGO PDP WG Charter (https://community.icann.org/x/I4NEAg), Whois 
>>>> Survey Working Group (https://community.icann.org/x/xwS5AQ). Do note that 
>>>> the first two are Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Groups which 
>>>> means that the charter may include elements that are specific to PDP 
>>>> Working Groups.
>>>> Attached you will the notes I took during the policy & implementation 
>>>> session in Beijing. To review the full transcript or recording, please see 
>>>> http://beijing46.icann.org/node/37133. 
>>>> The next meeting has been scheduled for Monday 17 June at 19.00 UTC for 90 
>>>> minutes.
>>>> 
>>>> With best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Marika
>>>> <Policy & Implementation WG - Charter Template - 11 June 2013.doc><Policy 
>>>> and Implementation Panel Beijing 10 April 2013 - Notes.doc>
>>> 
>>> 
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