Re: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] RE: Attendance and Recording Policy and Implementation WG meeting - 19 November 2014

[Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@xxxxxxxxx>]

We can't force stakeholder groups to put representatives on IRTs.  In that
sense, representativeness shouldn't be required, and if an IRT ends up not
being representative, that's life.
However, I think representativeness should be reasonably encouraged, and no
SG representative should be excluded who wants to serve on the IRT.  (And
that goes double for reps who were on the WG.)

Greg

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> After listening to the recording I want to share a couple of my thoughts
> regarding last week’s P&I WG:
>
> ·         I thought it was a very productive meeting and I especially
> enjoyed J. Scott’s humor.
>
> ·         I disagree with what I understood to be a suggestion that IRTs
> need to be broadly representative.  I agree that they should be fully open
> for all groups to be represented and that should be encouraged.  But in
> some cases there is not a need to be fully representative and some groups
> simply aren’t interested enough to commit the time, understanding that they
> will have a say before the final implementation plan is approved.  A case
> in point is the IRTP.  Although it wasn’t specifically called that at the
> time, an IRT was formed to develop an implementation for the original IRTP
> about 10 years ago. Even though it was open to people from all groups, it
> ended up being made up almost exclusively of registrars and that worked out
> very well.  In cases like this, it can be more important to have
> operational expertise than broad representation.
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> owner-gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Terri Agnew
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:32 PM
> *To:* gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and
> Implementation WG meeting - 19 November 2014
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> The next Policy and Implementation Working Group teleconference is
> scheduled *next week on Wednesday 26 November at 20:00 UTC for 1 hour.*
>
>
>
> Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working
> group call held on Wednesday 19 November 2014 at 20:00 UTC at:
>
>
>
> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20141119-en.mp3
>
>
>
> On page:
>
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov
>
>
>
> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO
> Master Calendar page:
>
> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
>
>
>
> *Attendees:*
>
> Cheryl Langdon-Orr – At-Large
>
> Olevie Kouami – NPOC
>
> Stephanie Perrin – NCUC
>
> Anne Aikman-Scalese – IPC
>
> Jonathan Frost – RySG
>
> J.Scott Evans – BC
>
> Michael Graham – IPC
>
>
>
> *Apologies: *
>
> Tom Barrett – RrSG
>
> Amr Elsadr – NCUC
>
> Chuck Gomes – RySG
>
> Alan Greenberg-ALAC
>
> Greg Shatan – IPC
>
>
>
> *ICANN staff:*
>
> Mary Wong
>
> Karen Lentz
>
> Berry Cobb
>
> Terri Agnew
>
>
>
> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
>
>
>
>
>
>  Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Terri Agnew
>
>
>
> *Adobe Chat Transcript **for Wednesday 19 November 2014*
>
>     Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation Working Group
> Meeting of 19 November 2014
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hi Terri I am in a hotel in Melb atm but need to get
> ready for a meeting just 30 mins after our call ends yes looking good after
> a late night does take work :-). so rather than be tethered to the hotel
> room phone best do the dial out to my mobile please... +61408647214...
> Thanks
>
>   Terri Agnew:Will do
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:it can be right at the top of the hour if you like
>
>   Terri Agnew:I will ask our operator to dial out to you at top of hour
>
>   Anne Aikman-Scalese:@Cheryl - I have yet to see you look anything but
> GOOD.
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-)
>
>   Olevie Kouami:Hi !
>
>   Olevie Kouami:Please, have you started the meeting ?
>
>   Olevie Kouami:I've missed the Chairs and Vice-Chairs call
>
>   Anne Aikman-Scalese:I am stuck on the phone waiting for a coordinator to
> let me into the call.
>
>   Terri Agnew:Hi Olevie, not yet, we are trying to reach you via telephone
> but no luck so far, we will keep trying
>
>   Olevie Kouami:Ok. Terri
>
>   Olevie Kouami:I'm off on my phones
>
>   Olevie Kouami:I a
>
>   Terri Agnew:@Anne, I will alert our operator
>
>   Olevie Kouami:I was on the road back to my home office
>
>   Olevie Kouami:Tahnks Terri
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:wow well done
>
>   Mary Wong:Congrats from all the Policy Staff, J Scott!!!
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:congratulations J Scott
>
>   Jonathan Frost:Congrats
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:nothing from me based on a quick scan only
>
>   Terri Agnew:Michael Graham has joined
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes place switch
>
>   Karen Lentz:@Anne, as Mary is saying, that was just moved to a
> different section
>
>   J. Scott:thanks Terri
>
>   Michael R. Graham:Also on hold on phone -- but listening online.
>
>   Terri Agnew:@Michael, I see you have joined on audio
>
>   Michael R. Graham:Cut "ideally"
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:minimum... At Least 24
>
>   Jonathan Frost:Agreed.  Putting the word ideal makes it too easy to say
> 'well this isn't the ideal situation'
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:correct @mary
>
>   Terri Agnew:Stephanie Perrin has joined
>
>   Karen Lentz:ok, noted
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:why not refer to Chatham House here
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that has been the default standard in many groups any
> way
>
>   Jonathan Frost:sorry
>
>   Stephanie Perrin:Agree with Chatham House approach.  Also less
> ambiguous.
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we should be more specific and the guidelines don!t
> preclude they just don't state
>
>   Stephanie Perrin:Clarity is better than consistency in my view.
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:agree
>
>   Jonathan Frost:down!
>
>   Olevie Kouami:CLarity is better than consistency
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:@michael they would be asked as part of the
> investigation why non attendance/participation
>
>  Michael R. Graham:Okay, but the provision is sort of a "if we don't hear
> anything we will presume everything is hunky dory."  Just a matter of
> wording and affirmative agreement.  Can't we presume the IRT is made up of
> active members?
>
>   Stephanie Perrin:I am not hearing anything, did I drop off?
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:you must have
>
>   Michael R. Graham:Stephanie --  Your name is on Participants and mic is
> on.
>
>   Karen Lentz:that makes sense to me, thanks
>
>   Stephanie Perrin:How odd, muting my microphone also muted my speakers.
> First time that has happened as I recall.
>
>   J. Scott:If you want to type your comments here, I will read them to the
> group
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:wow that would actually be handy :-)
>
>   Mary Wong:Nice, J Scott!
>
>   Michael R. Graham:Is that "cloodjie"?
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-) :-) thanks JScott :-)
>
>   Stephanie Perrin:Links to the appropriate "standard Methodology" would
> be v helpful for us lazy newbies as well.
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes indeed base it on the guidelines
>
>   Terri Agnew:@Jonathan your mic is muted
>
>   Olevie Kouami:Yes
>
>   Terri Agnew:@Olevie, we are dialing back out to you on audio
>
>   Anne Aikman-Scalese:If so, can we modify the deadline for input on the
> timeline?
>
>   Olevie Kouami:it's done
>
>   Olevie Kouami:thank you
>
>   Mary Wong:Thanks everyone!
>
>   Karen Lentz:thank you all
>
>   Anne Aikman-Scalese:Thank you J. Scott et all and staff!
>
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye thanks JScott
>
>   Olevie Kouami:thank you all
>
>   Stephanie Perrin:thanks!
>
>   Olevie Kouami:bye
>
>
>
>
>



-- 

*Gregory S. Shatan **ï* *Abelman Frayne & Schwab*

*666 Third Avenue **ï** New York, NY 10017-5621*

*Direct*  212-885-9253 *| **Main* 212-949-9022

*Fax*  212-949-9190 *|* *Cell *917-816-6428

*gsshatan@xxxxxxxxxxx <gsshatan@xxxxxxxxxxx>*

*ICANN-related: gregshatanipc@xxxxxxxxx <gregshatanipc@xxxxxxxxx> *

*www.lawabel.com <http://www.lawabel.com/>*