[gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and Implementation WG meeting - 07 January 2015
Dear All, The next Policy and Implementation Working Group teleconference is scheduled next week on Wednesday 14 January 2015 at 19:30 UTC for 90 minutes. Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working group call held on Wednesday 07 January 2015 at 20:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20150107-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20150107-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At-Large Amr Elsadr - NCUC Chuck Gomes - RySG Greg Shatan - IPC Alan Greenberg-ALAC Tom Barrett - RrSG Olevie Kouami - NPOC J.Scott Evans - BC Michael Graham - IPC Avri Doria - NCSG Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP Stephanie Perrin - NCUC Apologies: Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC Mary Wong - Staff ICANN staff: Marika Konings Karen Lentz Steve Chan Berry Cobb Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag> https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 07 January 2015 Marika Konings:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation Working Group of 7 January 2015 Greg Shatan:Hello (again).... Marika Konings::-) Marika Konings:I don't know how you keep up Greg! Alan Greenberg:Not actaully keeping up and not having a life is how I manage... Greg Shatan:+1 Avri Doria:what do you mean not having a life. this IS life. what more could one ask? Greg Shatan::-) Amr Elsadr:Hi all. Avri Doria:ok, if you want green i will take brown. Amr Elsadr:Sorry. Green's always been my favorite color. $$ :) Avri Doria:euh. Avri Doria:i will never pick green again. Avri Doria:normally i would pick purple, but the one they offer is too garish for work. J. Scott:I will take pink Amr Elsadr:Hope you all had great holidays. This is my first ICANN call since coming back online. :) Avri Doria:congratulations Mr. President Marika Konings:Congrats J. Scott! Chuck Gomes:Congratulations J. Scott Amr Elsadr:Congrats J. Scott. Greg Shatan:Congratulations, J Scott!! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:congrats! Greg Shatan:I don't mind being garish.... And I beat CLO to it! Amr Elsadr:Greg. It's your fault we're all talking about colors here. ;-) Greg Shatan:I've achieved so much.... Amr Elsadr:This definition is more indicative to me of ICANN policy, not GNSO policy. Alan Greenberg:Reference to GNSO *SHOULD* not be needed, but it doesn't hurt. Michael R. Graham:First: I'll accept whatever color -- unless driven to red. Greg Shatan:Michael -- I thought we agreed on this question... Alan Greenberg:I hope that this is the most controversial issue that we have to discuss. Greg Shatan:But our check/x are opposed. Marika Konings:but would it then be called GNSO policy? Marika Konings:to Avri's point Marika Konings:The charter is focused on the GNSO Greg Shatan:Should it be "gTLD Policy"? Greg Shatan:Definitions are always important since they flow through everything else. Amr Elsadr:Aren't these definitions just working definitions for the WG? The reason we're listing them is that anyone who reads the initial report understands what the WG is proposing, right? Tom Barrett - EnCirca:singular Greg Shatan:A Canadian removing an "eh"? Stephanie Perrin:My apologies for being late, previous call went overtime Alan Greenberg:Only a once-remoed Canadian would make that comment. Alan Greenberg:removed Tom Barrett - EnCirca:i think you can remove the phrase "from analysis to policy not from the Board downdownward, but" Terri Agnew:Welcome Stephanie Perrin Amr Elsadr:Should the last sentence read "... from the involved organizations and individuals, as practical and possible." Greg Shatan:Wearing my Hudson Bay blanket-striped scarf today. Michael R. Graham:Agree with Tom Avri Doria:do we have to say upward? Amr Elsadr:I uderstand that inclusiveness is what it is meant to portray. Just not so sure it does that very well. Tom Barrett - EnCirca:perhaps replace "upward" with "up towards"? Amr Elsadr:We discussed the equality issue a while ago if I'm not mistaken. Isn't that why we added the "as practicle and possible"? Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes use equal opportunity Marika Konings:@Alan - what was your suggested wording? 'All interested parties'? Michael R. Graham:Or "all stakeholders and others"? Terri Agnew:@Avri, your audio is fading in and out J. Scott:Avri we can't hear you clearly. J. Scott:Can you put your comments in the chat? Amr Elsadr:@Avri: +1 on the use of "such as" to indicate examples listed, not exclusitivity. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Interested Parties works J. Scott:how about stakeholders and other interested parties? Tom Barrett - EnCirca:i would strike the word "stakeholder" Alan Greenberg:If we used Steakholder, the definition would be easier,. Cheryl Langdon-Orr: and relates to the Defined Term Significantly Interested Parties in ccNSOs FOI WG outcomes relating to RFC1591 Avri Doria:ok, i will write my comments. Alan Greenberg:But that may just be because I am hungry. J. Scott:I can live with that J. Scott:Me too Alan. J. Scott:I am salavating at "steakholder" Avri Doria:so we leaving upward in. oh well. Michael R. Graham:That's Buenos Aires, right? Tom Barrett - EnCirca:works for me Alan Greenberg:I really dislike "upward to the Board" Cheryl Langdon-Orr:@avri I think the word upward is redundant any way. just "to the Board Amr Elsadr:I disagree with removing "anyone else". Tom Barrett - EnCirca:to provide guidance? Tom Barrett - EnCirca:to the board Michael R. Graham:Historical note: The upward and downward references were, as I recall, included to clarify the meaning of "Bottom up" -- Greg Shatan:Parsing is an issue Marika Konings:Maybe further comments / edits can be suggested on the list? Stephanie Perrin:Sorry have to exit the call Michael R. Graham:@Alan: I would have left out the up and down, but the apparent lack of clarity of the meaning of the term sort of forced our hand in definition -- this discussion is actually what we hoped would follow work on the Deliverables. Tom Barrett - EnCirca:we dont need "to the board" anymore Tom Barrett - EnCirca:this is defining "bottom-up" Amr Elsadr:I believed the same as Alan. Chuck Gomes:I definitely did not believe that and that would be a critical change. Amr Elsadr:Chuck, isn't that why we started with the principles and definitions before we got into everything else? Amr Elsadr:Because they were meant to guide our work? Chuck Gomes:But not the only reason. Marika Konings:Correct - 15.30 - 17.00 Michael R. Graham:I will be online attending and active. Marika Konings:GNSO Council meeting is from 13.00 - 15.00. The WG meeting is currently planned for 15.30 - 17.00 local tiime. Greg Shatan:Bring your friends! Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye got yo chair another call now Tom Barrett - EnCirca:bye Amr Elsadr:I can't make it 30 minutes earlier. I thought we were going to have 30 extra minutes at the end. Attachment:
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