[gnso-policyimpl-wg] RE: Attendance and Recording Policy and Implementation WG meeting - 29 April 2015

["Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks everyone.  My apologies for not being able to attend yesterday .   I 
will listen to the mp3.  I believe that both Greg and I have an IPC meeting at 
INTA on May 6 at the time the call is scheduled.
Anne

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From: owner-gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:06 PM
To: gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and 
Implementation WG meeting - 29 April 2015


Dear All,



The next Policy and Implementation Working Group teleconference is scheduled 
next week on Wednesday 06 May 2015 at 19:00 UTC for 90 minutes.



Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working group 
call held on Wednesday 29 April 2015 at 19:00 UTC at: 
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-29apr15-en.mp3



On page:

http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr



The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master 
Calendar page:

http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/



Attendees:

Amr Elsadr – NCUC

Alan Greenberg-ALAC

Chuck Gomes – RySG

Avri Doria - NCSG

Greg Shatan – IPC

Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At–Large

Michael Graham - IPC



Apologies:

J.Scott Evans - BC



ICANN staff:

Marika Konings

Mary Wong

Amy Bivins

Karen Lentz

Steve Chan

Berry Cobb

Terri Agnew



** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **



 Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag



Thank you.

Kind regards,



Terri Agnew



Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 29 April 2015



  Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation WG meeting of 29 April 2015

  Amr Elsadr:Hi there. I must be earlier than I thought I was today. :)

  Amr Elsadr::)

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks. :)

  Greg Shatan:I just sent an email to the list on the question regarding no new 
obligations....

  Greg Shatan:Sorry not to get it out earlier....

  Alan Greenberg:Only 5 hours today - peice of cake!

  Marika Konings:I've pasted Mary's language on the right hand side as it went 
across a couple of pages (for those that want to read it again)

  Marika Konings:Our definition in the Initial Report is: A Policy established 
(1) pursuant to the procedure and required minimum elements set forth in 
ICANN's Bylaws, and (2) covering those topics listed in Section 1.2 of the 
consensus policies and temporary policies specification of the 2013 RAA (see 
Annex I) or the relevant sections in the gTLD registry agreements (see Annex 
II). GNSO Consensus Policies, adopted following the outlined procedures, are 
applicable and enforceable on contracted parties as of the implementation 
effective date.

  Greg Shatan:also please fix spelling of Consensus...

  Greg Shatan:or define "Consenus".

  Greg Shatan:I feel better already.

  Amr Elsadr:@Alan: What purpose would that serve?

  Greg Shatan:Definition of Policy: Something that would be Implementation if 
you agreed with it.

  Greg Shatan:I jest.

  Amr Elsadr:@Chuck: You've covered my concern pretty well. Thanks.

  Marika Konings:We haven't used it yet as we are still waiting for a response 
from the Board ;-)

  Marika Konings:Yes, we'll make sure that a redline version will be available.

  Greg Shatan:Alan Greenberg, MS Word Ninja.

  Greg Shatan:or should I say .ninja?

  Avri Doria:not so much as different world, but a different frame of reference.

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Michael Graham

  Greg Shatan:WRT the example in Q10.2, the GAC sent a letter published today 
on the country/territory release issue, asking that RSEPs be parked until the 
GAC can prepare a database and related processes.

  Amr Elsadr:If I recall correctly, the board deals with GNSO recommendations 
differently depending on the consensus levels of the GNSO Council.

  Amr Elsadr:I need a refresher on that.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, you're prob referring to Annex A of the Bylaws - on Board 
adoption of PDP recommendations

  Amr Elsadr:Yes. I'll look it up. I should know this.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks for that Alan.

  Greg Shatan:For the record, I am not objecting.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yup makes sense to me

  Avri Doria:nd even John Poole agrees.

  Amr Elsadr::)

  Avri Doria:IPC and Poole

  Amr Elsadr:To be honest, I'm not entirely sure, but IRT membership is 
normally limited to members of the original PDP WG.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Marika.

  Greg Shatan:We are not in the same poole....

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that may br the case  @Marika but as were checking with 
him any way ... ... .. my as well ask

  Amr Elsadr:We should probably ask him to clarify this.

  Greg Shatan:Slow on the trigger....

  Amr Elsadr:@Marika: But that would make this different from how it happens on 
a WG. Why the differentiation?

  Marika Konings:Can an individual raise an issue to the Council? I believe it 
also requires at least more than one person - but I would need to double check.

  Amr Elsadr:I'm pretty sure there's not requirement for this.

  Amr Elsadr:*no requirement.

  Amr Elsadr:@Chuck: Sure.

  Avri Doria:an individual can make a motion.  granted it needs seconding.  but 
i beleive that yes a a single person can bring up an issue.

  Avri Doria:indivudlas still have some say.

  Marika Konings:Agree with Chuck - I don't think there is any change to the 
liaison relationship.

  Amr Elsadr:There was no intent on changing the role of the liaison on my part.

  Avri Doria:expect to be treated as trouble makers, more likely

  Avri Doria:without ever really causing any trouble.

  Amr Elsadr:Although a minority statement would be dealt with differently on 
an IRT.

  Amr Elsadr:Alan is correct.

  Avri Doria:to council if there is a problem

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:same here Avri  so let's be explicit

  Karen Lentz:agree re: public comment step

  Berry Cobb:Yes, the PC from an IRT is not so much about the "plan" itself, 
but for how CPs would implement, the PED, and the proposed policy language.

  Amr Elsadr:@Berry: PED?

  Berry Cobb:Policy Effective Date

  Amr Elsadr:Thnx. :)

  Marika Konings:and there is also the GNSO liaison

  Karen Lentz:of course the staff will communicate also

  Avri Doria:and if there is doubt, the council can get invovled.

  Greg Shatan:No stronger than a strong presumption....

  Amr Elsadr:@Marika: I'd be happy if staff want to take this up. :D

  Mary Wong::)

  Amr Elsadr:Gives me more time to work on my thesis.

  Avri Doria:makes sense, it is a roles and repsonsiblities type of question

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:LOL

  Mary Wong:Typo for WG?

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:groan

  Amr Elsadr:Sure. We can do this on-list.

  Greg Shatan:I hope IPC got a "Noted and thanks"!

  Mary Wong:A surgically precise thanks, right, Greg?

  Marika Konings:You did, Greg ;-)

  Greg Shatan:Thanks!  :-)

  Amr Elsadr:I won't make the call in two weeks, so will try to wrap up my 
tasks on-list.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:valid concern  CHuck

  Marika Konings:@Chuck - I didn't interpret it that way, but just wanted to 
give an indication as to when we expect to have an updated version available 
which may faciliate planning.

  Greg Shatan:I will be unavailable next week anyway, due to the INTA 
(International Trademark Association) meeting in San Diego.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:you would need an agreement call  any way  so why nit hold 
the one next week

  Greg Shatan:I expect that Michael, Anne and J Scott will also be unavailable 
then, to9o.

  Alan Greenberg:@Greg, perfect opportunity to put something over on the IPC!

  Greg Shatan:We'll be watching you!

  Alan Greenberg:No you won't! You will be at INTA!

  Greg Shatan:We have our ways....

  Mary Wong:What a way to end the meeting, Alan!!!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Thanks all Bye for now...

  Greg Shatan:Goodbye, old hands!!

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Bye




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