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RE: [gnso-ppsc] RE: AW: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp]

  • To: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Marika Konings" <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Liz Gasster" <liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx>, "Avri Doria" <avri@xxxxxxx>, "Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-ppsc] RE: AW: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp]
  • From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:04:25 -0500

Sorry about that Jeff.  I am mixing issues as you can tell.  The PDP team stuff 
will likely be considered under AOB at the end.  Once we receive a request from 
the WT or PPSC we will add it there.
 
Chuck


________________________________

        From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:22 PM
        To: Gomes, Chuck; Marika Konings; KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; Liz Gasster; Avri 
Doria; Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
        Cc: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [gnso-ppsc] RE: AW: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] 
        
        

        That's the STI..where would the PDP Team stuff be discussed.

         

        Jeffrey J. Neuman 
        Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
        
        

        
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        From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:02 PM
        To: Neuman, Jeff; Marika Konings; KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; Liz Gasster; Avri 
Doria; Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
        Cc: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [gnso-ppsc] RE: AW: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] 

         

        10 am EST.  STI is item 3 on the agenda so it should probably come up 
within 20 to 30 minutes of the start of the meeting.

         

        Chuck

         

        Agenda for GNSO Council Meeting 17 December 2009

        This agenda was established according to the GNSO Council Operating 
Procedures approved 28 October 2009 for the GNSO Council 

        Coordinated Universal Time:15:00 UTC - see below for local times (07:00 
Los Angeles, 10:00 Washington DC, 15:00 London, 16:00 Brussels, 02:00 Melbourne 
next day)

        Chair: Chuck Gomes; Vice Chairs: Olga Cavalli & Stéphane Van Gelder

        Note: This meeting will be recorded.

        Scheduled time for meeting 120 mins.

        Dial-in numbers sent individually to Council members.

        Item1: Administrative matters

        1.1. Roll call of Council members

        1.2. Update any statements of interest

        1.3. Review/amend agenda

        1.4. Note the status of minutes for the following Council meetings per 
the new Council Operating Procedures:

        . 8 October meeting - Approved on 28 November 2009 . 28 October meeting 
- Approved on 27 November 2009 . 23 November meeting - Approved on 08 December 
2009

        Item 2: Motion to approve GNSO Improvements Recommendations for a 
Constituency/Stakeholder Group Toolkit of Services

        2.1 Refer to the recommendations document at:

        
http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/tool-kit-services-recommendations-for-gnso-18oct09-en.pdf
 
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/tool-kit-services-recommendations-for-gnso-18oct09-en.pdf>
 

        2.2 Discussion of recommendations

        2.3 See the motion at:

        https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?17_december_motions 
<https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?17_december_motions> 

        2.4 Vote

        Item 3: Special Trademark Issues (STI) Review Team

        3.1 Update - David Maher, STI Review Group Chair

        3.2 Refer to the 7 December STI Report at (Insert link to STI Report) 
(not yet available)

        3.3 Council action?

        Item 4: Action on Issues Report regarding vertical separation of 
Registries and Registrars

        4.1 Refer to Issues Report on Vertical Integration 
http://gnso.icann.org/issues/vertical-integration/report-04dec09-en.pdf 
<http://gnso.icann.org/issues/vertical-integration/report-04dec09-en.pdf> 

        4.2 Overview of Issues Report (Margie Milam)

        4.3 Discussion

        4.3 See possible motion(s) at:

        https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?17_december_motions 
<https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?17_december_motions> 

        Note: If a motion is acted on to initiate a PDP, absentee voting will 
be allowed.

        Item 5: Prioritization of GNSO work

        5.1 Status Report (Olga Cavalli)

        5.2 Council action?

        5.3 Next steps?

        Item 6: Status updates

        6.1 Board update (Denise Michel)

        6.2 New gTLD Implementation Process Update (Kurt Pritz)

        6.3 Items of interest to the GNSO from the ccNSO (Olga Cavalli/Han 
Chuan Lee)

        6.4 Other?

        6.5 Questions/comments on written status updates sent in advance by 
leaders of Working Groups, Work Teams, staff projects, etc.?

        Item 7: AOB

        Item 8: The updated GNSO Project Status List (formerly Pending Action 
Item List) is at:

        http://gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/meetings/pending-action-list.pdf 
<http://gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/meetings/pending-action-list.pdf> .

        8.1 Questions/comments?

                 

________________________________

                From: owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
                Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:34 PM
                To: Gomes, Chuck; Marika Konings; KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; Liz 
Gasster; Avri Doria; Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
                Cc: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
                Subject: RE: [gnso-ppsc] RE: AW: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] 

                What time is the meeting?  I would be happy to listen in.  I 
know there are some sensitive issues that staff may want me to respond to as 
opposed to them, but I will let them weigh in.

                 

                Jeffrey J. Neuman 
                Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy

                
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                From: owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
                Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:17 PM
                To: Marika Konings; KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; Liz Gasster; Avri 
Doria; Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
                Cc: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [gnso-ppsc] RE: AW: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] 

                 

                In anticipation of the request being added to the Council 
agenda for 17 Dec., would there possibly be value in having Jeff as chair of 
the PPSC and/or WT participate in the Council meeting or is it reasonable to 
expect that Wolf, Marika and any others on the WT and/or PPSC and the Council 
could talk to this satisfactorily?

                 

                Chuck

                         

________________________________

                        From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx] 
                        Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:36 PM
                        To: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; Liz Gasster; Avri Doria; 
Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
                        Cc: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx; Gomes, Chuck
                        Subject: Re: AW: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] 

                        Wolf-Ulrich, in response to your questions:
                        
                        - the basic request for the F2F meeting

                        *       The request for the face-to-face meeting was 
shared with the PPSC and should be forwarded by Jeff to the GNSO Council 
shortly according to his message on 5 December (see 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-ppsc/msg00117.html) 

                        - background information on budget effect (e.g. average 
cost per funded participant)

                        *       based on previous experience, the average 
expected costs per participant is estimated to be between $ 1,500 - 2,500. This 
estimate includes travel, hotel, food and meeting facilities. Please note that 
this is a rough estimate. 

                        - list of items where council recommendations are 
expected (GAC rep., SG reps  etc.)

                        *       This is for the Council to discuss and decide 
upon 

                        - information on potential F2F meeting requests from 
other WTs

                        *       As far as I am aware, no other requests for F2F 
meetings have been made or are in the pipeline 

                        
                        With best regards,
                        
                        Marika 
                        
                        On 08/12/09 10:00, "KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx" 
<KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

                        
                        
                        Thanks, Liz, for this which I fully share.
                        Nobody participating within this work team has to take 
responsibility that others don't or do it part-time only. The discrepancy 
between the number of members nominated to a WT and the number of active 
members is inherent to any WT.
                        As I'm in favour of holding an F2F meeting as soon as 
possible I'd like to push this forward that a positive decision could be taken 
by the PPSC and the council in principle. Details like whether a GAC 
representative should be funded should not be used as key decision factors but 
could be recommended by the council. So what I would appreciate being prepared 
by staff for the council discussion on Dec 17 is:
                        - the basic request for the F2F meeting
                        - background information on budget effect (e.g. average 
cost per funded participant)
                        - list of items where council recommendations are 
expected (GAC rep., SG reps  etc.)
                        - information on potential F2F meeting requests from 
other WTs
                        
                        I really hope that this discussion will encourage and 
enable more community members to participate actively. But it shouldn't 
paralyse the work progress. Regarding the work on a new and modernized PDP the 
alternative would be just staying with the old (existing) one. I don't think 
that's the best solution.
                        
                        Best regards
                        
                        Wolf-Ulrich
                        
                        
                        
                        -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
                        Von: owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Liz Gasster
                        Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2009 03:07
                        An: Avri Doria; Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
                        Cc: PPSC; Chuck Gomes
                        Betreff: RE: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp]
                        
                        
                        All,
                        
                        I'd like to try to address some of the points that have 
been raised about the proposed face-to-face meeting.
                        
                        Regarding the role of the GNSO Council:
                        
                        *       Staff is not "negating the Council 
responsibilities for oversight of the process." Our only point is that the 
question of travel funding falls under staff's remit as it currently stands. As 
indicated, we do want to encourage the Council to play a more active role in 
forecasting budgetary and resource requirements on an annual basis, and to help 
ICANN use fees wisely and maintain the appropriate budget levels.
                        
                        *       As Jeff noted, the PPSC is considering the 
request now, following its review (deadline of 9 December), the Council will be 
asked to provide its view.
                        
                        Regarding the F2F location, Work Team participation and 
who should attend:
                        
                        *       We suggested DC/east coast US because it seemed 
like the most central/least amount of travel for the largest number of 
participants and the most cost-effective location. The ICANN staff who have 
been supporting this WT (Marika, Margie and me) are planning to participate.
                        
                        *       The GAC does not have an official 
representative to this group. Bertrand de La Chappelle had been participating 
as an individual but he has not been active for awhile now. The GAC could 
decide to send an official rep to this meeting.
                        
                        *       It is erroneous to say that participants have 
been "excluded" or that the WT is driven by a particular "region." While the WT 
was constituted before Stakeholder Groups were created, there have been no 
restrictions or guidelines as to how many representatives each Constituency (or 
any interested group) could or should have.  In any event, SG input will 
continue to be encouraged and both the NCSG and SG are, of course, represented 
on the Council and will be addressing the new PDP directly there.
                        
                        *       It is great to see that individuals from the 
NCUC (and other new faces) are now keen to participate and they are encouraged 
to become involved NOW in the WT's substantive efforts on-line and on 
conference calls, and not wait until a face-to-face meeting.  That said, 
enhancing participation on the WT does not equate to getting funded to attend a 
particular F2F meeting. This WT has always been open for anyone to participate 
and any group to be represented. Every effort has been made to try to get input 
and participation from all Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups, including by 
setting up surveys and requesting input on documents and discussions. It is 
troubling to see that only funded travel seems to drive a sudden need for 
'adequate representation' while this interest level seems to have been missing 
when it came to participation in the WT's previous 20 calls and 3 surveys.  
This F2F meeting is actually about genuine participation and about bringing the 
discussions!
                          of those 20 calls and 3 surveys together into 
conclusions so the public, the PPSC and the GNSO have a concrete initial draft 
to consider.
                        
                        *       In addition, this is an open and lengthy 
process with many opportunities for anyone to participate and offer ideas.  
This WT's initial recommendations will be publicly available for comment and 
will be considered by the PPSC; the PPSC's recommendations on a new PDP will be 
publicly available for comment and will be considered by the GNSO Stakeholder 
Groups, Constituencies and the Council; the Council's proposed new PDP will be 
publicly available for comment and will then be considered by the Board.
                        
                        Regarding the AoC:
                        
                        *       The remit of this specific WT stems from the 
Board-approved GNSO Improvements Report. One of the PDP WT's objectives has 
been, and continues to be, to encourage more transparency, accountability, and 
community deliberation and involvement.  Ultimately, a community review team 
will be tasked to assess ICANN's efforts as called for in the AoC; this effort 
complements, but is independent from, the GNSO's Improvement Process, which 
needs to be completed expeditiously.
                        
                        Thanks, Liz
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
                        Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:18 AM
                        To: Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
                        Cc: PPSC; Chuck Gomes
                        Subject: Re: [ncsg-ec] Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp]
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        PS.  How come no support for a GAC representative at 
the F2F.  In respect to meeting AoC obligations, this seems a definite 
oversight and a risk.
                        
                        
                        On 6 Dec 2009, at 11:00, Avri Doria wrote:
                        
                        > Hi Jeff,
                        >
                        > Thanks for getting back to me with such a detailed 
note.
                        >
                        > I have at this point listened to the recording of the 
phone call, and have a few points to make.
                        >
                        > First I totally agree with those who believe this is 
a GNSO council issue, though of course only after the PPSC has passed it on..  
Even if the work was mandated by the Board, it was mandated that the GNSO do 
the work.  I would also point out that the PPSC was chartered by the GNSO 
Council and as such its Working Teams are also governed by that charter.  The 
GNSO council, in its new form is mandated to management of the policy 
development process.  This means the whole process, including ICANN Policy 
Staff activities taken in support of that Policy Process.  For the ICANN Policy 
Staff to continue negating and overriding the  responsibilities of the council 
is unacceptable - and a serious problem, one that is much greater then that of 
a PDP face to face meeting.
                        >
                        > Second in terms of deciding who should participate.  
We must remember that this is being done in light of the Affirmation of 
Commitment 9.1
                        > "(e) assessing the policy development process to 
facilitate enhanced cross community deliberations, and effective and timely 
policy development."
                        > That means this cannot be 'just about bringing this 
work to closure" .  There needs to be a review to insure that the work done to 
date meets this new criteria.  We need to insure that nay new PDPD process 
meets the requirements of the Aoc. The requirements of "Ensuring 
accountability, transparency and the interests of global Internet users" 
requires that:
                        >
                        > - there be global diversity in the participants - and 
if certain regions have not been included in the past, they need to be added 
now.  the fact that certain participants have been excluded in the past must 
not be used to restrict them in the present and the future.  The fact that this 
is a self selected group of North Americans is _not_ a good thing and does not 
seems encouraging in light of the AoC.  One can see this is being done for cost 
efficiency, but holding it in DC because that is where the North Americans are, 
is not really valid reasoning for an ICANN that wishes to show its 
international pedigree.  This is especially the case in the light of difficulty 
with visas into the US,  e.g. the NCSG has one possible Latin American 
participant, one who had attended several PDP-WT meetings, who withdrew from 
consideration because just getting a visa to the US can be an obnoxious several 
day job.
                        >
                        > - there needs to be full and equal participation of 
all relevant interests.  At a minimum this means that all SGs[*] needs to be 
offered the chance to be adequately represented, even if it means that some new 
participants have to come up to speed.  SGs MUST be treated equally.  It is 
fine if those in the Contracted Parties House do not wish to send a full 
compliment at ICANN expense.  But their willingness not to do so should not be 
used as a reason to deny participation to the non-commercial participants who 
have no resources of their own to enable participation.  The fact that the 
Commercial SG group composed of  those who often have access to financial 
resources are given 3 paid seats, while the Non-Commercial SG who have no 
resources are only given 1 seat is completely unacceptable.  To characterize 
this as mere bickering is cruel and unfair - it needs to be recognized as a 
matter of equality and parity that are essential ingredients in insuring the 
interests of global!
                          Internet users.  In pragmatic sense, it is important 
to remember that the changes being proposed by this group will need to reach a 
certain threshhold of votes in the council before being passed onto the Board.  
Is it reasonable to consider that those who have been excluded from the process 
will be able to approve of the process as having been fair when they were not 
adequately represented?
                        >
                        > - there be new people looking at the work done to 
date, since it is well known that people who have been immersed in the details 
for a long time, are often incapable to considering an issue in the light of 
new requirements.
                        >
                        > Yes any new participants need to review all of the 
material and I beleive it is a totally legitimate expectation that everyone 
would need to review all of the previous work and I beleive that everyone can, 
and should be, be trusted to do so.  Yes, it should not be a ground zero 
discussion, but we have a new council, with a new mandate, and if we expect it 
to be able to sign off on the process having been run will full accountability, 
transparency and the interests of global Internet users we better be sure that 
all voices who want to participate can fully do so.
                        >
                        > Mention was made that remote participation facilities 
would be provided.  As anyone who has attempted to participate in a face to 
face meeting remotely knows, this is not a equal opportunity participation.  
Yes you can almost listen and might be able to make a occasional comment, but  
contrary to what Marika says, participation in the face to face meeting does 
equal participation and one can never make up for having missed a face to face 
meting.  looked at another way, if face to face participation is not critical, 
then why have the face to face meeting at all.
                        >
                        > To limit the meeting to so called 'active' members is 
to limit it to the old and not to take into account that there has been a large 
change in the GNSO and council in the last few months.  We have 3 new Board 
appointed members of the council in the NCSG, I find it unreasonable that no 
account has been taken of having at least one of them attend, or to having them 
suggest a proxy for their concerns.
                        >
                        > In terms of budget, the fact that the GNSO council 
has not been allowed to look at budgets in the past is no reason not to give 
the new GNSO Council responsible for management the ability to review the 
budget.
                        >
                        > As things currently stand, in terms of this face to 
face meeting, I will make my personal recommendation that the NCSG PPSC 
representative object to this plan, and that if the plan is passed on to the 
GNSO Council, the NCSG council members insist on a vote on this plan and that 
they then vote against this plan as it stands for the following reasons:
                        >
                        > - inequality of  representation
                        > - insufficient details on how much of it will cost 
for the ICANN Policy Staff to participate (how many, travel costs and whether 
contract or not)
                        > - no detailed budget
                        >
                        > I understand that not having the f2f may make it hard 
to hit a timeline, but we must be careful to do the right thing and not just 
keep the trains running on time.
                        >
                        > a.
                        >
                        > [*] this must be done by SG not by constituencies.  
For someone to ague that there is only one constituency in the NCSG when there 
have been 3 appointed board council members to the NCSG and the NCSG keeps 
expanding in size is just plan wrong and prejudicial.
                        >
                        >
                        > Note: On the issue of the Policy Staff sending 
confidential reports to the Board - as I have long advocated - this practice 
MUST be stopped, especially in respect to the PDP process.
                        >
                        >
                        > On 5 Dec 2009, at 16:57, Neuman, Jeff wrote:
                        >
                        >> Thanks Avri for your note and I do encourage you to 
listen to the
                        >> recording.  I would like to send to you the same 
answer I sent to Robin
                        >> earlier in the week.  As chair, it is my 
responsibility to make sure
                        >> that all viewpoints are heard and reflected in the 
ultimate report.  I
                        >> need to do that regardless of the actual number of 
people that attend
                        >> meetings or calls.  In other words, if the 
registrars have 2 people on a
                        >> call, but the NCSG only has one, I cannot give more 
weight to the
                        >> registrars than to the NCSG simply because they have 
more people.
                        >> Similarly, the fact that there is only one person 
from the NCSG that
                        >> attends a meeting does not mean that its voice is 
heard less.  We need
                        >> to stop focusing on the issue of quantity, but 
rather quality.  It is
                        >> the same reason why the RySG and RrSG accepted less 
members on the STI
                        >> than the NCSG and CSG have on that committee. The 
RrSG and RySG have 2
                        >> members, while the other 2 SGs have 3 members each.  
 The registries and
                        >> registrars agreed early on that as long as our voice 
was being heard
                        >> (which we believe it is), then we would not focus on 
the number of reps.
                        >>
                        >> With respect to ICANN policy staff, I will let ICANN 
staff address.
                        >>
                        >> Finally, with respect to new blood, I believe that 
is an issue for all
                        >> working groups as they are COMMENCING their work.  
As we are trying to
                        >> wrap up our work, I am not sure the face to face 
meeting (intended to
                        >> finalize a report) is the place to make the call for 
diversity.  The
                        >> group discussed this issue at length and felt that 
the persons being
                        >> funded should be ones that either (i) active in the 
group or (ii) are
                        >> dedicated to the remain active in the group for the 
reminder of its life
                        >> span.  I am paraphrasing, but you should listen to 
the recording.  We do
                        >> not believe someone should be funded to attend the 
face to face if they
                        >> have rarely if ever been on a WT call or meeting or 
have never filled
                        >> out any of the surveys.  Anyone and everyone is free 
to participate
                        >> remotely.
                        >>
                        >> I hope that helps to understand some of our thinking.
                        >>
                        >> Please let me know if you have any questions.
                        >>
                        >>
                        >>
                        >> Jeffrey J. Neuman
                        >> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
                        >>
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                        >> -----Original Message-----
                        >> From: owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
                        >> [mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Avri Doria
                        >> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:36 AM
                        >> To: Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
                        >> Cc: PPSC; Chuck Gomes
                        >> Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp]
                        >>
                        >>
                        >> Hi,
                        >>
                        >> On reading it, and I have not listened to the 
recording of the meeting
                        >> yet, I object to the disparity in treatment between 
the two non
                        >> contracted SG groups.
                        >>
                        >> There should be the same number of representatives 
from each of the
                        >> Stakeholder groups.    As written this prevents the 
council members
                        >> appointed from the Board, or other member the NCSG 
executive committee
                        >> wishes to send, from participating.  This continues 
a disparity in the
                        >> treatment between non-commercial and commercial that 
was to have been
                        >> eliminated by the restructuring.
                        >>
                        >> It should either be 1 from each SG or 3 from each.  
The number of
                        >> constituencies should be irrelevant at this point.
                        >>
                        >> I will be checking with the NCSG Executive 
Committee, so at this point
                        >> this is a personal point of view, but as Chair of 
the NCSF Executive
                        >> Committee I wish to lodge a provisional protest.
                        >>
                        >> I also object that this request to the Council does 
not include specific
                        >> information on the staff that the ICANN Policy 
groups plans to send.  I
                        >> understand their very active participation in this 
work team, and think
                        >> that council members should know how many staff 
members will be sent
                        >> since that is part of the expense that needs to be 
accounted for.
                        >>
                        >> I have heard other details about discussions during 
the meeting that
                        >> concern me, especially that affect to the need to 
include new blood and
                        >> diversity in this group, but will comment on those 
specifically once I
                        >> have listened to the recording.
                        >>
                        >> a.
                        >>
                        >>
                        >>
                        >> On 5 Dec 2009, at 07:43, Neuman, Jeff wrote:
                        >>
                        >>> Dear PPSC members,
                        >>>
                        >>> Please find enclosed a draft request for a PDP Work 
Team face to face
                        >> meeting in January 2010 setting for the rationale 
for needing such a
                        >> working session.  This draft was discussed by the 
PDP Work Team this
                        >> past Thursday.  It is our intent to send this to the 
GNSO Council by no
                        >> later than December 9th so that it can be discussed 
at the GNSO Council
                        >> meeting.
                        >>>
                        >>> As this is a first, we wanted to make sure that the 
entire PPSC was
                        >> made aware of the request prior to sending it to the 
Council.  Unless
                        >> there is a strong objection by the PPSC as a whole, 
this will be sent to
                        >> the Council next Wednesday.  I have also included 
Chuck Gomes on this
                        >> note so that he is aware that this will be coming.
                        >>>
                        >>> I know there are a few on the Council that have 
expressed reservations
                        >> about the face to face and that is the reason this 
document has been put
                        >> together - namely, to explain our rationale.
                        >>>
                        >>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
                        >>>
                        >>> Best regards,
                        >>>
                        >>> Jeffrey J. Neuman
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                        >>> <Request for a PDP WT Face to Face meeting - 
updated 3 December
                        >> 2009.doc>
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