Re: [gnso-review-dt] Follow Up to Council Meeting

[Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I will also likely not be able to make today’s call, but will listen to the 
recording when it is available, and comment on-list if I need to.

Jen…, thanks for the update regarding the OEC. I do hope this group can reach 
consensus on the letter on the revised recommendation 23. I suspect that 
consensus here would be helpful to the OEC when they make a final decision on 
what to do with 23. Furthermore, this not being a group chartered by the GNSO 
Council, I’m not confident the Council will be able to assist constructively in 
the absence of a clear direction provided by the working party. I very much 
encourage folks to work towards a draft letter that we can all live with.

Thanks again.

Amr

> On Sep 30, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Jen Wolfe <jwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
>  
> The purpose of today’s call is to discuss the other 35 recommendations so 
> that we can prioritize which ones have wide spread support and are 
> implementable and then separate out those that might require more discussion, 
> consideration, etc.   
>  
> I’ll provide a brief update during the call, but the OEC granted us 
> additional time to finalize a formal statement on Revised Rec. 23 – so we 
> have time to gain consensus on a Working Party written response before they 
> would take any action on it.  Also, consensus discussion on that call was to 
> outright reject Revised Rec. 23.  I still think it’s important to get 
> community feedback and complete our response, but it may become a moot point 
> if they plan to reject it.  
>  
> I look forward to talking with those of you who can make the call today.  
> Thanks again for your continued support of this process!
>  
> Jen
>  
>  
>  
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> From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:29 AM
> To: Jen Wolfe <jwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: gnso-review-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-review-dt] Follow Up to Council Meeting
>  
> Hi
>  
> I know there is a call in 3 1/2 hours but it’s looking like it may be 
> difficult for me to make it.  
>  
> Is the intention to further discuss the letter on 23?  It seems there may not 
> be consensus to send it as a WG statement so would we instead do a coalition 
> of the willing sign on?  
>  
> Is there also the intention to discuss the other recs beside 23?
>  
> thanks
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:08 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  
> Hi Jen
>  
> I agree as well, but also think it’s a pity that the OEC will not know 
> exactly what the ‘concerns’ you’ll allude to involve before meeting with 
> Westlake.  Perhaps you could at least let them know that if they’re curious 
> about what’s being discussed but does not yet enjoy consensus can be found at 
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-review-dt/msg00406.html?
>  
> Best
>  
> Bill 
>  
>  
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 10:52 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  
> I agree on this approach.
>  
> Chuck
>  
> From: owner-gnso-review-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-review-dt@xxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf Of Jen Wolfe
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 4:19 PM
> To: gnso-review-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Amr Elsadr
> Subject: [gnso-review-dt] Follow Up to Council Meeting
>  
> Hello GNSO Review Working Party,
>  
> The draft of the proposed response to the OEC regarding Revised 
> Recommendation 23 was discussed during today’s GNSO Council meeting.   The 
> Council asked that we defer sending a formal statement to the OEC until 
> everyone can review and respond from their respective groups.
>  
> I spoke with staff following the Council presentation to confirm timing 
> issues and wanted to highlight an important point.  On Monday, the OEC is 
> just  being briefed by Westlake.  They are not taking any action or planning 
> to discuss any action until their meeting in Dublin.  The next step will be 
> for the OEC to consider the recommendations and determine what action to 
> take. 
>  
> Accordingly, I recommend that we notify the OEC that the WP and the GNSO 
> Council have concerns about Revised Recommendation 23, that we are working to 
> prepare a more formal response and that they delay taking an action on 
> Recommendation 23 until the community can properly respond.  
>  
> This would afford the necessary time to go back to your respective groups and 
> discuss the response and to gain consensus on a written response to the OEC.  
> I know that everyone is busy and adding on a rushed or urgent important 
> communication is not in anyone’s best interest. 
>  
> Please let me know if you agree or disagree with this approach. 
>  
> For next steps, we are working on scheduling one more call before Dublin so 
> that we can prioritize the other 35 recommendations into what is workable and 
> feasible versus what may not have consensus or be workable (i.e. Rec. 23 
> among some others).  We can then head into Dublin to address the response to 
> the OEC.
>  
> Thank you again for your continued commitment to this process – it is greatly 
> appreciated! 
>  
>  
>  
> JENNIFER C. WOLFE, ESQ., APR, SSBB
> FOUNDER & PRESIDENT, WOLFE DOMAIN, A DIGITAL BRAND STRATEGY ADVISORY FIRM
> 513.746.2800 X 1 OR CELL 513.238.4348
> IAM 300 - TOP 300 GLOBAL IP STRATEGISTS 2011-2014
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>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
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