RE: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www

["Tina Dam" <tina.dam@xxxxxxxxx>]

In that case I think your working is sound. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:10 PM
> To: Tina Dam; Timothy Denton; Reserved Names Working Group ICANN
> Cc: ck@nic.museum; rmohan@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www
> 
> In our consultation with Cary and Ram, they stated that the 
> job of translation/transliteration is too comprehensive and 
> imractical.  With that understood, I mainly wanted to see if 
> my wording was sound.
> 
> Chuck Gomes
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tina Dam [mailto:tina.dam@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 8:04 PM
> > To: Gomes, Chuck; 'Timothy Denton'; 'Reserved Names Working Group 
> > ICANN'
> > Cc: ck@nic.museum; rmohan@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www
> > 
> > Hi Chuck, sorry for the late reaction to this. I am afraid 
> I may not 
> > be of much help here - the reason being that I simply don't know if 
> > the terms "nic" "www" and "whois" is translatable into 
> various other 
> > languages and as such these terms should be considered for 
> reservation 
> > as well. It may be that the job of 
> translation/transliteration is too 
> > comprehensive and practical impossible, but you might want to ask 
> > someone else...Ram, Cary, what do you guys thinks?
> > 
> > Tina
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:52 PM
> > > To: Timothy Denton; Reserved Names Working Group ICANN
> > > Cc: ck@nic.museum; rmohan@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Tina Dam
> > > Subject: RE: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www
> > > Importance: High
> > > 
> > > Cary/Ram/Tina,
> > > 
> > > Please look at the IDN recommendations in the attached table and 
> > > suggest any improvements you have.  Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Tim,
> > > 
> > > It appears that you forgot to replace the role statement in
> > Section 2
> > > with the one that Mike Palage sent and that I think we all
> > supported
> > > on the call: "The rationale for the reservation of these
> > names for use
> > > by registry operators is based upon long standing and well
> > established
> > > use of these strings by registry operators (both gTLD and
> > ccTLDs) in
> > > connection with normal registry operations."
> > > 
> > > Regarding the recommendations in Section 3:
> > > 
> > > - As previously suggested, please insert the full 
> recommendation in 
> > > each case instead of saying 'remain reserved' or 'same as above'.
> > > This will make it easier for Liz to cut paste
> > recommendations into the
> > > new gTLD report.  I think the table then would look like the one 
> > > attached.
> > > 
> > > - Also, I don't believe the IDN recommendation expresses
> > what Ram and
> > > Cary suggested and it doesn't make sense to assume that 
> "they would 
> > > remain reserved" because they have never been reserved in
> > IDN.  See my
> > > suggestions in the attached table.
> > > 
> > > Regarding the Consultation with Experts:
> > > 
> > > - You did not make any mention of the consultation with Ram
> > and Cary
> > > regarding IDNs.  That should be in this report to support the IDN 
> > > recommendations.  I suggest that you copy the first paragraph of 
> > > Section
> > > 4 from the ICANN/IANA report and modify it for this report. 
> > I took a
> > > crack at it here: "As regards the IDN implications of these three 
> > > names, both Cary Karp and Ram Mohan were consulted in a
> > teleconference
> > > of March 1, 2007. The advice received was that these names were 
> > > "integral designators" to be used "without translation". In other 
> > > words, there was no need to reserve these strings in other
> > languages. 
> > > Ram Mohan suggested "Find the equivalent and reserve them at that 
> > > time"
> > > and added "Don't try to translate them", referring to the 
> acronyms 
> > > and/or abbreviations."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Chuck Gomes
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Timothy Denton
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:53 PM
> > > > To: Reserved Names Working Group ICANN
> > > > Subject: Re: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www
> > > > 
> > > > All: Changes since the last version have been marked 
> with yellow 
> > > > highlighting.
> > > > 
> > > > Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > > > > Tim,
> > > > >
> > > > > No redline version as requested.  Is it too late?
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck Gomes
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> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
> > > > >> [mailto:owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Timothy Denton
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:37 PM
> > > > >> To: Reserved Names Working Group ICANN
> > > > >> Subject: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www
> > > > >>
> > > > >> All: This version reflects some small editing 
> changes and the 
> > > > >> decisions of the WG on the most recent call.
> > > > >>
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