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[gnso-thickwhois-dt] MP3 / Thick WHOIS PDP Drafting Team - recording 27 September 2012 at 18:00 UTC

  • To: Thick WHOIS PDP DT <Gnso-thickwhois-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: [gnso-thickwhois-dt] MP3 / Thick WHOIS PDP Drafting Team - recording 27 September 2012 at 18:00 UTC
  • From: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:50:29 -0700

Dear All,

The next Thick WHOIS PDP Drafting Team call is scheduled at the same time next 
week, Thursday 04 October 2012 at 1800 UTC.

Please find the MP3 recording of the Thick WHOIS PDP Drafting Team 
teleconference held on Thursday 27 September 2012 at 1800 UTC at:


On page:  

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master 
Calendar page


The adobe connect chat transcript is posted at the end of this email.


Elisa Cooper - CBUC

Keith Drazek - RySG
Alan Greenberg - At-Large

Carolyn Hoover - RySG

Susan Kawaguchi - CBUC

Mikey O'Connor - ISPCP

Evan Leibovitch - At-Large
Jonathan Tenenbaum - RrSG
Ray Fassett - RySG
Ekaterina Dureva - Individual


Marika Konings
Barbara Roseman
Gisella Gruber


Susan Prosser

Steve Metalitz

Jonathan Zuck

Carlton Samuels

** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Thank you.

Kind regards,


Mailing list archives:


Wiki page:


Information on WHOIS can be found on page


Participants subscribed to the drafting team

Wilson Abigaba - NCUC

Bob Bruen - NARALO ALS

Elisa Cooper - CBUC

Avri Doria - NCSG
Keith Drazek - RySG
Ekaterina Dureva - Individual
Ray Fassett - RySG
Alan Greenberg - At-Large
Volker Greimann - RrSG

Frédéric Guillemaut  - RrSG

Tony Harris - ISPCP

Caroline Hoover - RySG

Susan Kawaguchi - CBUC

Evan Leibovitch - At-Large

Steve Metalitz - IPC

Mikey O'Connor - ISPCP

Susan Prosser - RrSG

Tim Ruiz - RrSG

Carlton Samuels - At-Large

Michael Shohat - RrSG

Jonathan Tenenbaum - RrSG

Brian Winterfeldt - IPC

Jonathan Zuck - IPC


Stephane van Gelder - RrSG

Jeff Neuman - RySG

Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP


Adobe Connect Chat Transcript:
   Marika Konings:Welcome to the 'thick' Whois DT meeting of 27 September 2012
  Barb Roseman:I'm on mute as I've got dogs at the house
  Alan Greenberg:Sound MUCH better now
  Gisella Gruber-White:Carolyn Hoover joined the audio bridge
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:i didn't receive an attachment
  Gisella Gruber-White:Evan Leibovitch joined the call
  Evan Leibovitch:Howdy
  Barb Roseman:would the word Primary be better than authoritative
  Gisella Gruber-White:Ekaterina has disconnected - she is trying to reconnect
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:authoritative defines whose data set takes precedent 
if there's an inconsistency.
  Carolyn Hoover:for .coop,  most registrars point to our whois
  Barb Roseman:+1 to keith
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:i can try to findf out the answer to Alan's question 
by reaching out to some registrars. I don't know the answer, but I suspect it's 
a mix. Some relay the registry data and some rely on their own database.
  Barb Roseman:which is different from the primary/secondary thing I was 
pointing out
  Ekaterina Dureva:Sorry, but I have internet issues, so I will watching though 
adobe connect
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:another issue around the question of whois data 
authority is around proxy/privacy services. registrars who offer proxy/privacy 
services typically (if not entirely) send the proxy data to the registry and 
hold the actual registrant data themselves. how can the registry be 
authoritative for registrant data that it never receives?
  Alan Greenberg:I originally read this point with "uniform" being a synonym 
for all thick instead of some thick and some thin.
  Gisella Gruber-White:Jonathan Tenenbaum joined the call
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:jeff's primary concern on this issue is the 
equal/equitable treatment of competing registries. he feels that if the largest 
registy isn't required to go thick, then those who are thick should be allowed 
to go thin.  i'm not advocating this  one way or the other, but wanted to at 
least expand on jeff's point a bit to make sure  the intent was clear.
  Ray Fassett (.JOBS):yes
  Carolyn Hoover:remove the period
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:if we're going to refer to the domain name status, 
that would include lock. just use the word status instead of both.
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:the biggest cost will be a result of the actual 
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:but there are ongoing cost implications of either 
transition or no transition
  Evan Leibovitch:Hey, I've tried to stay quiet to keep the call moving. I 
haven't had much to add to the current discussion.
  Carolyn Hoover:5 minutes is fine
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:time flies when you're having fun
  Keith Drazek, Verisign:i think we're getting close and should be able to make 
the 9th
  Ray Fassett (.JOBS):thanks Mikey
  Evan Leibovitch:bye!
  Ekaterina Dureva:bye

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