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[gnso-thickwhois-dt] MP3 / Thick WHOIS PDP Drafting Team - 04 October 2012 at 18:00 UTC
- To: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber@xxxxxxxxx>, Thick WHOIS PDP DT <Gnso-thickwhois-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [gnso-thickwhois-dt] MP3 / Thick WHOIS PDP Drafting Team - 04 October 2012 at 18:00 UTC
- From: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 13:57:00 -0700
Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Thick WHOIS PDP Drafting Team
teleconference held on Thursday 04 October 2012 at 1800 UTC at:
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-thick-whois-20121004-en.mp3
On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/calendar/#oct
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master
Calendar page
http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
The adobe connect chat transcript is posted at the end of this email.
Attendees
Elisa Cooper - CBUC
Keith Drazek - RySG
Alan Greenberg - At-Large
Carolyn Hoover - RySG
Susan Kawaguchi - CBUC
Mikey O'Connor - ISPCP
Jonathan Tenenbaum - RrSG
Ray Fassett - RySG
Ekaterina Dureva - Individual
Susan Prosser
Steve Metalitz
Jonathan Zuck
Jeff Neuman
Frederic Guillemaut
Volker Greiman
ICANN Staff
Marika Konings
Barbara Roseman
Gisella Gruber
Apology:
None noted
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Gisella
Mailing list archives:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-thickwhois-dt/
Wiki page:
https://community.icann.org/x/whgQAg
Information on WHOIS can be found on page
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/thick-whois.htm
Adobe Connect Chat Transcript:
Marika Konings:Welcome to the 'thick' Whois DT meeting of 4 October 2012
Alan Greenberg:Coordinator will assist me momentarily
Alan Greenberg:Or not
Carolyn Hoover (dotCoop - RySG)):same here
Ray Fassett (.JOBS):same here
Susan Prosser:ditto
Barbara Roseman:they seem stuck or very busy
Alan Greenberg:In
Barbara Roseman:connecting
Susan Prosser:in now
Ray Fassett (.JOBS):but very polie - they keep welcoming me
Carolyn Hoover (dotCoop - RySG)):in
Ray Fassett (.JOBS):in
Gisella Gruber-White:Volker has joined the AC room
Marika Konings:The document on the screen includes Keith's, Carolyn's and
Avri's suggestions / edits
Marika Konings:It does not address Alan's points
Gisella Gruber-White:Volker has joined the audio bridge\
Gisella Gruber-White:Avri Doria has joined the call
Jeff Neuman:I agree with Alan
Keith Drazek, Verisign:i agree with carolyn's proposal
Keith Drazek, Verisign:thanks for the comment, steve
Jeff Neuman:"what are the cost implications of a transition to 'thick' Whois
for Registries, Registrars, registrants and other parties for all gTLDs"
Keith Drazek, Verisign:+1 jeff
steve metalitz:I agree with Jeff.
Gisella Gruber-White:Please remember to state your names for the transcript
steve metalitz:Agree with Alan re "rights in data"
Gisella Gruber-White:Jonathan Tenenbaum has joined the AC room
steve metalitz:The privacy topic is already covered in an earlier paragraph
Alan Greenberg:There are a whole bunch of companies that data-mine all whois
and then store and distribute the data. and these companies already can exist
in multiple countries. The data is already out there and stored in a host (pun
intended) of places
Marika Konings:I think that section is actually up in the document: '- Impact
on privacy and data protection:: how would ‘thick’ Whois affect privacy and
data protection, also taking into account the involvement of different
jurisdictions with different laws and legislation with regard to data privacy
as well as possible cross border transfers of registrant data?'
avri:this is not a privacy issue
avri:someone rights in their own data is not just a privacy issue
Keith Drazek, Verisign:"authoritativeness" worked for me for this section
Jeff Neuman:@Avri - But that is NOT a thin vs thick issue
Jeff Neuman:Even the EU Privacy Directive does not touch "ownership" of data
Carolyn Hoover (dotCoop - RySG)):As Jeff says, the phrase was not related to
the issue of privacy
Keith Drazek, Verisign:got dropped, dialing back in now
avri:It goes beyond Privacy.
avri:it goes to change in judicial consttiant
Jeff Neuman:Existing Whois Applications: What, if anything, are the
potential impacts on the providers of third-party WHOIS-related applications if
thick WHOIS is required for all gtLDs?
Keith Drazek, Verisign:i'm good with Jeff's sentence
Susan Prosser:+1 wth Jeff's vesion
Jeff Neuman:There is a group in the IETF working on this
Jeff Neuman:called the "WEIRDS" group
Jeff Neuman:I agree we should be paying attention to it (and SSAC 51 work) as
well
steve metalitz:Agree with Alan
Keith Drazek, Verisign:+1 jeff
Barbara Roseman:Marika is going to leave the call, Barbara will stay on
steve metalitz:Agree with Jeff
avri:Not alone Keith!
Ray Fassett (.JOBS):what is the objective of sending to council now?
Keith Drazek, Verisign:i'm fine with pushing it to the council, but i reserve
the right to come back and argue for that section again
avri:forward a stauts report on where we are.
Ray Fassett (.JOBS):status report makes sense
Jonathan Tenenbaum:Agreed
Alan Greenberg:Also merit in having it distributed to SG before COnst. Day.
Jeff Neuman:A status report is not enough
Jeff Neuman:I think we are so close to final
Jeff Neuman:we should give them what we have EVEN if we have to highlight the
few areas still worked on
Keith Drazek, Verisign:thanks to everyone for the effort focusing on these
recent proposed edits
Ray Fassett (.JOBS):Jeff, I think it is fine to attach draft with status
report
avri:another way to combat a deferrral is to finish the work before asking
people to consider it.
Jeff Neuman:And we are asking the Council to read it and be ready to discuss.
Jeff Neuman:not to vote on it
Jonathan Tenenbaum:if there are only a few things to discuss why cant we get
it done in time?
Jonathan Tenenbaum:I think we shouldnt send as is, but I think we should work
to submit in time if there are only a few pieces left to discuss
Jonathan Tenenbaum:otherwise, sending a draft noting the remaining open items
makes sense (or a status report with the draft attached)
Jeff Neuman:I would like to get it done, dont get me wrong
Jeff Neuman:But not sendindg this out for another month until we can meet
again in person seems excessive
Jonathan Tenenbaum:I agree
Jonathan Tenenbaum:You have all done much of the heavy lifting so I am not
trying to play Monday morning QB either.. :-)
Jonathan Tenenbaum:But I don't think putting the whole thing off a month when
we are very close doesnt seem like the way to go
Jonathan Tenenbaum:er.. seems like the way to go.. ignore the double
negative there..
Jonathan Tenenbaum:ok, we are way over.. thanks all
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