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Re: [gnso-thickwhoispdp-wg] i've started drawing pictures -- here's the first one

  • To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-thickwhoispdp-wg] i've started drawing pictures -- here's the first one
  • From: Volker Greimann <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 12:44:27 +0100




- in any event, the information that gets into the (public) Whois database is up to me, depending on choices that i make. i can submit false information or use a proxy/privacy provider.

Or both! But it is moot to us. We are talking about what is in the Whois record, for better or worse.
Correct, whois accuracy is beyond our scope, I believe. If we tried to tackle that wild horse, we'd never be done.

Alan, i put the "authoritative" term in there to see if anybody was actually reviewing my drawing. you get an A+. that's one of the subteam's topics to figure out. although i'm swayed by the argument that the registrars remain authoritative since they're the ones in contact with the registrant. but it's too early to call that one yet. :-)

The "authoritative" issues is one of those that I believe is not relevant to the PDP. There are a large number of thick Whois TLDs. However they work, so will any ones where we may recommend a transition from thin to thick. Why do we need to worry about it? There is (supposedly) a global review of Whois coming - which it is for, how it should work. If there is an issues regarding authoritativeness if the dichotomy between Rr Whois and Ry Whois remains, let them solve it.

I suspect that if and when the two versions of Whois disagree (and it can happen in both thick and thin), the problem is not solved by a ruling based on the book definition of who is authoritative, but on an investigation of the specifics to understand how the discrepancy crept in.
Essentially, there should never be two versions of whois. Currently in thin registries, the registry basic whois would tell us which registrars' whois was authoritative, whereas in thin registries, the registry is the authoritative source. While registrar whois servers exist for thick whois registries, they are queried next to never as the registry whois does not point to them. In either system, it is pretty straightforward to determine the authoritative data as the non-authoritative data will normally not be found in a query.

Best,

Volker



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