Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Single Registrant TLDs

[Jothan Frakes <jothan@xxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff, good example.... Also, with the .net rebid the wholesale price per
name per year  shrunk by a couple of dollars, and while some registrars
passed this savings through to the registrants, most left the price the same
as com.


Jothan Frakes
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On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Neuman, Jeff <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Avri,
>
> With respect to this point:
>
> "For example, have there been cases where a registry lowered its fees, and
> the regisrar did not in turn lower theirs to the consumer but absorbd the
> profit?"
>
> The answer is YES.  Registries have lowered fees and registrars have not
> passed those lowering of fees through to consumers.  See
> http://www.icann.org/correspondence/switzer-to-twomey-23nov08.pdf.  In
> early 2008, Neustar intentionally decided not to raise its fees to
> registrars when most of the other registries raised their rates.  Despite
> this, every registrar not only raised the rates of the other TLDs (that
> increased their wholesale rates), but also raised the rates for .biz
> (despite the fact that we did not raise ours).
>
>
>
> Jeffrey J. Neuman
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 8:49 AM
> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Single Registrant TLDs
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>
> On 9 Apr 2010, at 08:17, Volker Greimann - Key-Systems GmbH wrote:
>
> > Allowing all nGTLD applicants to bypass the registrar system would
> effectively lead us back to the domain business we had a decade ago, which
> is IMHO definitely not in the interest of the consumer.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Humility* aside, please explain why this is.  I would like to understand
> how this has helped consumers and how that benefit has been measured.
>
> I have heard different theories about whether the current modality has
> helped consumers or whether it was even necessary - so leaving aside for the
> moment the subject of whether it helps or hinders innovation and creativity,
> please show evidence for the ways in which having separate Registrars has
> benefited consumers.
>
> For example, have there been cases where a registry lowered its fees, and
> the regisrar did not in turn lower theirs to the consumer but absorbd the
> profit?
> I also am not sure I understand how any middleman who ads to the price,
> benefits users unless they are offering some value add service.  So what
> service have the registrars aded that was not doable by the Registries,
> especially now that registries have effectively split into registry service
> providers (RSP) and registry owners (RO) and we have full service resellers.
>
> I really do not care too much about how the mountains of profit gained from
> these consumers are split between the Registry Service Providers, Registry
> owners, Registrars and Resellers - what I care about, in this instance, is
> showing why having the Registrars, with the add on costs to the consumer in
> their role as middlemen, has been a protector and a benefit to the consumer.
>
> Again, I expect you can show this quite clearly and I expect that at the
> end of the explanation we will most all accept the importance of having
> registrars, I just think it would be helpful to have it explained.
>
> a.
>
>
> * the humility in question is the H in IMHO, for those who may not know the
> acronym: IMHO, In My Humble Opinion,
>
>
>
>