[gnso-vi-feb10] transcript of the chat from today's call

["Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff Neuman: Happy Birthday to Mikey and Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul Diaz: Feliz cumplianos!
Kathy Kleiman: What's the chance - the same day?!
CLO: Pretty special
Roberto: I think that we have finally the explanation on why Mikey and myself 
agree so often!
Roberto: We are both Gemini, my birthday is this coming Sunday
Kathy Kleiman: Happy birthday to you, Roberto!
Kathy Kleiman: How about we table the meeting - and hold a party?
Sivasubramanian M: I have the same screen problem
Roberto: Happy Birthday to you, Mikey, and all other Geminis who, being well 
known mad folks, are populating this WG in numbers ;>)
Marika Konings (privately): Happy Birthday Mikey!!! I hope you have a wonderful 
celebration.
Jothan Frakes: Happy Birthday Mikey
Phil Buckingham: Mickey , Happy Birthday - Does that mean you get a free bus 
pass ( as in UK )
Phil Buckingham: Sory
Alan Greenberg: Glen, whener we use this dial-in number, we revert to the old 
verbose mute/unmute messages. Is there any way they can fix that?
Phil Buckingham: Sorry - should read Mikey !!!!!!!!
Roberto: @Alan +1
Sivasubramanian M: We can do further work on the list of harms, define the 
harms, classify the harms in terms of the intensity of harm, explore if 
Registrars would evolve good practices among themselves to avoid doing harm,/  
arrive at a class of harms that warrant punitive measures, 
Jeffrey Eckhaus: I think it is very clear. Why walk us through it. Can we just 
submit questions to the chat
Sivasubramanian M: ( not necessarily during this call )
Sivasubramanian M: If we have to take the approach of reacting to harms, rather 
than superficial measures such as cross-oiwnership controls, then we will 
necessarily hae to evolve a good mechanism to address harms, mechanism to react 
to harms. The pre-requisite would be to strengthen processes for Registrants to 
report harms. At the moment we don't seem to have processes that bring the 
Registrants' issues to ICANN - not all occurances
Michael Zupke (privately): Mike: Kurt is on the call if you'd like him to speak 
to the latest version of the Guidebook -- he did ask that you not interrupt the 
discussion for his benefit though...
Margie Milam (presenters): Kurt is on the call now
Jothan Frakes: that was your birthday present mikey
avri: is the board reviewing, any different then what they can do with any of 
the implementations issues?
avri: or was it meant as a life line for those who like neither their previos 
decsion, or the direction the consensus process is taking?
Kristina Rosette: If we're taking a strict view of contractual interpretation, 
one could say that ''distributor'' does not mean Registry Operator b/c then 
they would have said that.  
Kristina Rosette: I do agree with Jeff, though, that it should be defined.
Kathy Kleiman: I've fallen off the call... coming back in now
Kathy Kleiman: don't wait for me.. having trouble getting back in
Jeff Neuman: PDDRP is for IP violations and not for violations of agreements in 
general
avri: lock us in a room until there is white smoke!
Kathy Kleiman: LOL!
Jeff Neuman: Or black smoke
Brian Cute: What is the drop dead date to get something to the GNSO that it can 
consider in Brussels?  Is it June 23 (day of GNSO meeting) minus 10 days?
helen laverty: or the beer runs out?
avri: it can be done on the phone.
Ron: But it should be noted that less than 50% of those on the call voted 
Kristina Rosette: @Brian: yes
Brian Cute: Thanks Kristina
Margie Milam (presenters): Mikey-  most Staff needs to drop out at the end of 
the hour;  MIke Z will stay on
Margie Milam (presenters): but I will need to join the other call
helen laverty: do we have a brussels meeting other than wednesdays workshop?
Alan Greenberg: @helen Saturday morning. 9-11 Ithink.
Kathy Kleiman: Good idea, Cheryl!
CLO: And at the 0900 - 1100 Brusells meeting nether Brian or I can attend as w 
have ART meeting commintments
CLO: ATRT
Alan Greenberg: I would not cancel Monday's call. Agree with Ken.
CLO: I gree run the call Mon
Jothan Frakes: keep the call +1
Michael Zupke: Mikey (and others): the staff members on this call have a hard 
stop at the end of the hour
Kristina Rosette: Apologies, but I have to drop for a client call.  I'll listen 
to the recording to catch up.
Jeff Neuman: CORRECTION:  The Working Group writes the report
Jeff Neuman: Not the chairs
Michael Zupke: Please let me or Margie know after the call (today's call) if 
there is anything discussed that you need from us.  Thanks.
CLO: M<aybe runa POLL on Monday on unconverged  proposals  And/OR any newly 
conerged offerings  in the to meetings next week
Ron: @ Brian +1  Good way forward to ensure a report is posted 
Phil Buckingham: Cheryll - good idea - but some people will not declare their 
hand . Everybody on the WG must vote. What percentage of consensus is 
acceptable  100% 75% ?????
Jeff Neuman: I was just offering my sympathies (being a chair of another 
group)...chairs have enough pressure without doing the drafting :)
Kathy Kleiman: In the STI, Margie wrote the report, and we edited (actively!)
CLO: that is he personal choice aspect @phil  but those of us who do declare  
may influence any confluence and/or outcome for report / outcomes
Kathy Kleiman: I wanted to echo's Cheryl's recommendation - that people who 
have not declared share with us their thoughts, leanings, concerns and how they 
are addressed (or not) by the proposals on the table.
ken stubb: mikey +1
Phil Buckingham: Cheryl- very good point
Ron: @ Cheryl +1
avri: why frightening?
Kathy Kleiman: They are watching... a great phrase :-)!
Jeffrey Eckhaus: ''They are watching us'' is kind of scary sounding
avri: the default is a decsion.
Sivasubramanian M: My line is disconnected by accident..
avri: is there anywhere where the latest text of all the proposals is 
avaialble?  
Sivasubramanian M: Margie, please ask the operator to cal me again
CLO: Siva were wrapping up now any way
Sivasubramanian M: @Roberto.   It is ok, thanks
Scott Austin: Jeff Eckhaus: The truth is out there
Sivasubramanian M: thanks CLO., Roberto sent me a pm, it is oK
Brian Cute: Go Celtics!
Ron: Happy happy to the birthday babies!
Sivasubramanian M: @Glen  Thanks