RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Single Registrant TLDs in VIWG Brussels report

["Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jarkko,

What Richard refers to already exists in current registry agreements.
It's not complicated at all. And it wouldn't require the use of
Registrars - see the Afilias.info Whois below as an example of a
registry reserved name that is not registered through a registrar, only
the registry.

Domain ID                         | D217-LRMS
Domain Name              | AFILIAS.INFO
Created On               | 25-Jul-2001 14:11:20 UTC
Last Updated On          | 29-Nov-2007 23:27:44 UTC
Expiration Date          | 25-Jul-2011 14:11:20 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar     | Afilias Ltd. (R145-LRMS)
Status                   | OK
Registrant ID            | C270-LRMS
Registrant Name          | Afilias Limited
Registrant Organization  | Afilias Ltd.
Registrant Street1               | 3013 Lake Drive
Registrant Street2               | Office 107
Registrant Street3               | CityWest
Registrant City          | Dublin

Tim 
 
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Single Registrant TLDs in VIWG Brussels
report
From: <jarkko.ruuska@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, June 09, 2010 2:31 am
To: <tero.mustala@xxxxxxx>, <richardtindal@xxxxxx>,
<Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>

Richard,
 
I fully agree with you that most of the things Single Registrant TLDs
would want to do could be addressed as you described.
At the same time I agree with Tero that this would add unnecessary
complexity and cost. Either in the form of making more complicated
contract with ICANN or making the contract with possible registrars. And
for me it still doesn’t make any sense that registry would have to
sell names to registrar just buy them back with extra cost.
 
Thanks,
 
-jr
 
 
JARKKO RUUSKA
Head of Internet Domain Initiatives
Compatibility and Industry Collaboration,  Tampere, Finland
Nokia Corporation
Tel: +358 50 324 7507
E-Mail: jarkko.ruuska@xxxxxxxxx



 
From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext Mustala, Tero
(NSN - FI/Espoo)
Sent: 8. kesäkuuta 2010 14:15
To: ext Richard Tindal; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Single Registrant TLDs in VIWG Brussels
report


 
Hi Richard,

 

the requirement to use a separate registrar. As the number of 2nd level
names in a typical SRSU case is small, this is also no real business
opportunity to any registrar. It just adds costs to everybody.

 

regards

 

Tero

 

Tero Mustala 
Principal Consultant, 
CTO/Industry Environment 
Nokia Siemens Networks 
tero.mustala@xxxxxxx 

 

From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext Richard Tindal
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:46 PM
To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Single Registrant TLDs in VIWG Brussels
report
Hi Jarkko, 
 

Further to this post --- 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-vi-feb10/msg01584.html

 

What is it that SR Registries might want to do that isn't adequately
addressed by the current DAG contract?

 

Richard

 

 

 

 
On Jun 7, 2010, at 4:20 PM, jarkko.ruuska@xxxxxxxxx wrote:




Dear all,

It is my observation that recently we haven’t really spent much time
on the Single Registrant TLDs. However, according to previous discussion
(and also according to the newest proposal matrix)  it is evident that
Single Registrant TLDs could be vertically integrated and should not
need to use registrars. The exact conditions to that need a bit of
fine-tuning but are essentially available in the current proposals.

My understanding is that this is something almost everyone agrees on and
should therefore be noted in our Brussels report. I would even go a step
further and suggest that this is something we have a consensus on and it
should be part of our recommendation to be included in the final
Applicant Guidebook.

I also want to point out that Single Registrant TLDs  should be noted as
an exception regardless whether we reach a consensus about the
cross-ownership in general.

Thanks,

-jr

JARKKO RUUSKA

Head of Internet Domain Initiatives
Compatibility and Industry Collaboration,  Tampere, Finland

Nokia Corporation
Tel: +358 50 324 7507
E-Mail: jarkko.ruuska@xxxxxxxxx