Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU

[Volker Greimann - Key-Systems GmbH <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rosette, Kristina schrieb:
> Under which circumstances would people feel safe in allowing vertical 
> integration for a TLD that has a single registry and a single user 
> (the typical case being a "brand" TLD, for internal use only)?
> KR:  SEE IPC STATEMENT. 
>
>     * There should not be "sales" of SLDs, the names under the TLD are
>       distributed internally based on declared criteria. 
>
> KR:  AGREE THAT SHOULD BE NO SALES.  "INTERNALLY" NEEDS TO BE CLEARLY 
> DEFINED.
I agree 100%. In SRSU, domain names are used by the owner and not sold. 
I always had my problems with the distribution aspects as membership is 
probably too loose a definition. Internal use is the crucial point to 
define.
>     * There is no "secondary market", i.e. a name cannot be "passed"
>       to another beneficiary. Actually, the name remains always under
>       full control of the registry.    
>
> KR:  IF "PASSING" REFERS TO TRANSFER TO UNRELATED PARTY IN SRSU 
> SCHEME, AGREE.  HOWEVER, I ALSO SUPPORT A SRMU MODEL IN WHICH THE 
> USER, WHICH IS RELATED TO THE REGISTRY  EITHER THROUGH A PRIMARY 
> AGREEMENT FOR OTHER GOODS AND SERVICES (e.g., SUPPLIERS, AUTHORIZED 
> DISTRIBUTORS, ETC.) OR AS ITS TRADEMARK LICENSEE.  UNDER THE 
> CONDITIONS THE IPC PROPOSED, THE REGISTRY WOULD MAINTAIN CONTROL OF 
> THE NAME.
Can you give an example where this may apply? I also tend to go with the 
"no passing on" group, but would listen to a reasonable argument for 
exceptions.
> The point is that if a registry does fulfill these requirements, they 
> will be granted an exception, and will be allowed to operate without 
> giving equal access to all registrars.
> KR: AGREE
I see this as the only possible exception to SRSU, but even then I would 
require the registry to demonstrate their need for the exception from 
granting equal access. There must be a valid, plausible need for such en 
exception, or equal access should apply.
Volker

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>     *From:* owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>     [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Roberto Gaetano
>     *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:40 PM
>     *To:* Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>     *Subject:* [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU
>
>     The theme is the following:
>     Under which circumstances would people feel safe in allowing
>     vertical integration for a TLD that has a single registry and a
>     single user (the typical case being a "brand" TLD, for internal
>     use only)?
>
>     Let me start.
>
>         * There should not be "sales" of SLDs, the names under the TLD
>           are distributed internally based on declared criteria.
>         * There is no "secondary market", i.e. a name cannot be
>           "passed" to another beneficiary. Actually, the name remains
>           always under full control of the registry.
>
>     The point is that if a registry does fulfill these requirements,
>     they will be granted an exception, and will be allowed to operate
>     without giving equal access to all registrars.
>
>     There might be interesting questions, like:
>
>         * Will they be allowed to use the services of one registrar,
>           selected by them, or not?
>
>     Cheers,
>     Roberto

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