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Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] POLL REMINDER -- please complete the consensus poll

  • To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] POLL REMINDER -- please complete the consensus poll
  • From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:02:55 +0200

Hi Mikey,

Is there any way to have confirmation if our poll submissions have been 
accepted by the system?

I did the poll but did not get a confirmation page at the end...

Stéphane

Le 15 juil. 2010 à 14:28, Mike O'Connor a écrit :

> hi all,
> 
> just a nudge note to remind you to try and complete the consensus poll within 
> two and a half hours of the time stamp on this email (roughly 3 hours before 
> today's call).  i will summarize the results as of then and post them to the 
> list so you'll have time to take a look at the results before the call.  i'll 
> leave the poll open, so you can continue to respond after that deadline.  but 
> more-responses-sooner will improve the quality of our phone conversation.
> 
> here's the link to the poll 
> 
>       http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Initial-report-poll
> 
> by the way, apologies are in order.  there's a setting that i overlooked when 
> writing up the poll that blocks multiple responses "from the same computer" 
> (whatever that means).  so if you found yourself blocked from taking the poll 
> after having reviewed it once, try again -- it should permit you to fill out 
> the poll now.
> 
> regarding the concerns raised about the poll
> 
> -- yep, the results will be revealed -- just like all the other ones
> 
> -- no, it's not a "vote" -- we (the working group) won't base any conclusions 
> on the poll results unless there's pretty overwhelming support for a molecule 
> or atom
> 
> -- nope, there aren't any overwhelming conclusions to be drawn.  the poll is 
> showing us what we already know -- that there are deep divisions.  
> 
> -- Milton's points are spot on -- my goal throughout this process is to 
> batter you with techniques to find areas of agreement and this poll is just 
> one in that long series.  
> 
> -- a number of people inside and outside the working group have asked for a 
> complete accounting of the proposals, and levels of support for each.  we'll 
> use the poll results to indicate that in the "proposals considered" Annex in 
> the report.
> 
> -- Brian, regarding the "restaurant menu" problem -- i think we have that 
> problem no matter what.  the current DAGv4 language leaves the Board plenty 
> of room to revise the VI component of the DAG, no matter what we say.  by 
> exhaustively documenting our work, i hold the hope that our efforts will 
> improve the quality of their decision even though we weren't able to make it 
> for them.
> 
> -- regarding the "hm, this is close, but not quite right" problems.  those 
> are *good* problems.  identify those.  come up with ideas that will move you 
> into the "i support this" category.  that's the discussion we'll be having 
> while the Initial Report is out for public comment.  maybe we can find one or 
> two more areas of agreement.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> mikey
> 
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