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Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] POLL REMINDER -- please complete the consensus poll

  • To: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] POLL REMINDER -- please complete the consensus poll
  • From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:44:02 -0500

hi Stéphane

ah!  thanks.  that's another button i didn't see when i set up the survey.  
it's now been clicked and people will see a "thank you" page when they finish.

and, you'll be happy to know that *your* response is in there.  :-)

mikey


On Jul 15, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:

> Hi Mikey,
> 
> Is there any way to have confirmation if our poll submissions have been 
> accepted by the system?
> 
> I did the poll but did not get a confirmation page at the end...
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> Le 15 juil. 2010 à 14:28, Mike O'Connor a écrit :
> 
>> hi all,
>> 
>> just a nudge note to remind you to try and complete the consensus poll 
>> within two and a half hours of the time stamp on this email (roughly 3 hours 
>> before today's call).  i will summarize the results as of then and post them 
>> to the list so you'll have time to take a look at the results before the 
>> call.  i'll leave the poll open, so you can continue to respond after that 
>> deadline.  but more-responses-sooner will improve the quality of our phone 
>> conversation.
>> 
>> here's the link to the poll 
>> 
>>      http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Initial-report-poll
>> 
>> by the way, apologies are in order.  there's a setting that i overlooked 
>> when writing up the poll that blocks multiple responses "from the same 
>> computer" (whatever that means).  so if you found yourself blocked from 
>> taking the poll after having reviewed it once, try again -- it should permit 
>> you to fill out the poll now.
>> 
>> regarding the concerns raised about the poll
>> 
>> -- yep, the results will be revealed -- just like all the other ones
>> 
>> -- no, it's not a "vote" -- we (the working group) won't base any 
>> conclusions on the poll results unless there's pretty overwhelming support 
>> for a molecule or atom
>> 
>> -- nope, there aren't any overwhelming conclusions to be drawn.  the poll is 
>> showing us what we already know -- that there are deep divisions.  
>> 
>> -- Milton's points are spot on -- my goal throughout this process is to 
>> batter you with techniques to find areas of agreement and this poll is just 
>> one in that long series.  
>> 
>> -- a number of people inside and outside the working group have asked for a 
>> complete accounting of the proposals, and levels of support for each.  we'll 
>> use the poll results to indicate that in the "proposals considered" Annex in 
>> the report.
>> 
>> -- Brian, regarding the "restaurant menu" problem -- i think we have that 
>> problem no matter what.  the current DAGv4 language leaves the Board plenty 
>> of room to revise the VI component of the DAG, no matter what we say.  by 
>> exhaustively documenting our work, i hold the hope that our efforts will 
>> improve the quality of their decision even though we weren't able to make it 
>> for them.
>> 
>> -- regarding the "hm, this is close, but not quite right" problems.  those 
>> are *good* problems.  identify those.  come up with ideas that will move you 
>> into the "i support this" category.  that's the discussion we'll be having 
>> while the Initial Report is out for public comment.  maybe we can find one 
>> or two more areas of agreement.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> mikey
>> 
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